PWG Steering Committee Minutes * 11 December 2023

Attendees

Smith Kennedy (HP Inc, PWG Vice Chair)
Jeremy Leber (Lexmark, PWG Chair)
Ira McDonald (High North, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Alan Sukert (Independent, IDS WG Chair)
Mike Sweet (Lakeside Robotics, IPP WG Secretary
Paul Tykodi (TCS, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Bill Wagner (TIC, former Cloud WG Chair, former WIMS WG Chair)

Preface

This meeting was announced and chaired by Jeremy Leber.

These minutes were prepared by Ira McDonald with draft minutes from Smith Kennedy.

Agenda

(0) Agenda bashing, IP Policy, minute taker

- Review agenda and state PWG IP Policy
  - Ira McDonald and Smith Kennedy as minute takers

- Revised Agenda:

  (1) Administrivia
  (2) Action Item Review
  (3) PWG Hosting Organization - defer (Mike/Jeremy/Smith/Ira)
  (4) PWG February 2024 F2F - schedule (All)
  (5) PWG May 2024 F2F - schedule (All)
  (6) IDS Short and Long Term Planning (Alan)
  (7) IPP Everywhere Logo - required attribution statement? (Smith)
  (8) Officer election update (Jeremy)
  (9) PWG Communications Challenges - status (All)
  (10) PWG 3D / IPP article development - status (All)
  (11) OpenPrinting News/GSoC - update (Ira)
  (12) PWG 3D PR Opportunities 2023 - update (Paul)
  (13) IPP Use Cases (Smith)
  (14) Other Liaisons - status (Smith/Mike)
  (15) Next SC meetings

(1) Administrivia
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20231127.htm

- IPR and Antitrust

- Roll Call

- Review minutes of SC meeting (27 November 2023)
  - Approved

(2) Action Item Review

ACTION: 11/27/23 - Jeremy/Smith to follow-up with Mike - any progress on Mike's PWG Hosting
Organization research?
- CLOSED

ACTION: 11/27/23 - Jeremy to send announcement that PWG officers will all serve another term
- CLOSED

(3) PWG Hosting Organization - defer (Mike/Jeremy/Smith/Ira)
https://www.icdsoft.com/
https://github.com/istopwg/website/wiki/2023-Communications-Infrastructure-Update
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- Discussion
  - Mike to continue researching Web hosting w/ ICDSoft and GitHub over the holiday break
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(4) PWG February 2024 F2F - schedule (All)
https://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/meetings.html

- Discussion
  - Next F2F meeting now moved to 13-15 February 2024 
    - Potential agenda topics?

  - What to do about IDS? 
    - Make an extended PWG Plenary session (90 minutes) with more IDS slides and delete the 
      separate IDS WG session since Alan won't be able to attend 
    - Alan to make Plenary slides

  - Try to schedule a session on Device Attestation "BoF" as a joint IDS / IPP session at a 
    time that will appeal to regular IDS attendees (first day, after Plenary)

  - IDS plan
    - Condensed IDS WG slides (HIT, cPP updates, etc.) in Plenary

    - Put the IDS liaison status after the Device Attestation BoF

  - IPP topics
    - Review of PWG Last Call for EPX

    - IPP/2.x 4th Edition

    - IPP Everywhere v2.0 (maybe)

    - IPP Charter update discussion - not in the IPP Status short session

    - 3D Printing Liaisons - Status / Guidance / Next Steps

    - IPP OAuth2 as an IPP Status topic

ACTION: 12/10/23 - Smith to send out a PWG February 2024 draft agenda - leverage August 2023 meeting schedule
- OPEN

(5) PWG May 2024 F2F - schedule (All)
https://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/meetings.html

- Discussion
  - Move to Mon-Wed 6-8 May 2024
    - OP folks are on board with this change

  - Potential agenda topics? 
    - See new stuff listed for Feb 2024 F2F...

  - Physical F2F means meeting days will be longer (but longer lunch too)

(6) IDS Short and Long Term Planning (Alan)

- Discussion
  - No updates 
    - No new developments on finding additional officers for IDS

  - No responses from anybody thus far for IDS officers 
    - Could be non-work related delays

(7) IPP Everywhere Logo - required attribution statement? (Smith)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/wd-ippevelogo-policy-20231127-rev.docx

- Discussion
  - Smith posted first revision on 11/27/23

  - Smith live edited a new revision during SC call
    - Smith will add diagrams from 5100.20 later and post a new draft

(8) Officer election update (Jeremy)

- Discussion
  - Jeremy, Smith, Ira to continue for two more years
    - Jeremy announced officers on 11/30/23

(9) PWG Communications Challenges - status (All)
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- Discussion
  - No updates
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(10) PWG 3D / IPP article development - status (All)
https://amcoe.org/event/icam2023/
https://amcoe.org/event/forum23/
https://iccconference.org/
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- Discussion
  - No updates
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(11) OpenPrinting News/GSoC - update (Ira)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/openprinting/minutes/OP-Minutes-20231114.htm
https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News-November-2023/
https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/releases/tag/v2.4.7
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/libcups/releases/v3.0b2
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups-filters/releases/tag/1.28.17
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pappl/releases/tag/v1.4.3
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pdfio/releases/tag/v1.0.1
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/lprint/releases/tag/v1.2.0

- Discussion
  - See OP Monthly Steering Committee minutes link from 11/14/23 (Ira)

  - See OP Monthly news link from 11/24/23 (Till)

  - GSoC 2023 (Till/Aveek/Ira)
    - DONE - 21-28 August 2023 - GSoC contributors submit code - all OP projects were extended
    - DONE - 6 November 2023 - Mentors submit final GSoC contributor evaluations

  - GSoC 2024 (Till/Aveek/Ira)
    - See timeline link above!
    - 26 January to 6 February 2024 - Mentoring organizations submit applications to Google
    - 6 February to 20 February 2024 - Google program admins review organization applications
    - 21 February 2024 - List of accepted mentoring organizations published
    - 22 February to 18 March 2024 - Potential GSoC contributors discuss application ideas with 
      mentoring organizations
    - 2 April 2024 - GSoC contributor application deadline
    - 24 April 2024 - GSoC contributor proposal rankings due from Org Admins
    - 1 May 2024 - Accepted GSoC contributor projects announced
    - 1 May to 26 May 2024 - Community Bonding Period - GSoC contributors get to know mentors
    - 27 May 2024 - Coding officially begins!


  - See OP CUPS v2.4.7 release notes link from 09/20/23 (Zdenek Dohnal, RedHat)

  - See OP CUPS v3 beta2 release notes link from 10/05/23 (Mike)  

  - See CUPS Filters v1.28.17 release notes link from 01/24/23 (Till)

  - See CUPS Filters v2.0.0 final release notes link from 09/22/23 (Till)

  - See PAPPL v1.4.3 release notes link from 11/15/23 (Mike)

  - See PDFio v1.0.1 release notes link from 03/21/22 (Mike)
    - Simple C library for reading and writing any version of PDF files

  - See LPrint v1.2.0 release notes link from 12/31/22 (Mike)

  - OP Steering Committee
    - OP monthly calls 10/17/23, 11/14/23, and upcoming 12/12/23

(12) PWG 3D PR Opportunities 2023 - update (Paul)
https://www.drupa.com/
https://tct3sixty.com/conference

- Discussion
  - Content from Paul's note to SC on 12/11/23 
    - Paul had to leave SC call after first 30 minutes

  - Drupa in Dusseldorf, Germany (28 May to 7 June 2024)
    - Paul has a meeting with Drupa representatives about a possible PWG sponsored presentation 
      for the Drupa Next Age stage on this coming Wednesday 12/13/23 at 10:30am US EST

  - TCT 3Sixty in Birmingham, UK (5-6 June 2024)
    - UK's leading 3D Printing & AM Conference

    - PWG invited to submit an abstract to TCT 3Sixty on an Additive Manufacturing topic

    - TCT 3Sixty potential topics (from PWG November 2023 F2F)
      - Construction & Architecture 
        - Safe G-Code for sharing test files

      - Standards & Repeatability 
        - Use aspects of IPP suite of standards to develop cloud to device secure remote job 
          submission option for production class additive manufacturing devices

      - IP & Security 
        - Common Criteria for Additive Manufacturing
  
    - Paul submitted abstract on Safe G-Code topic before the deadline on 12/08/23

(13) IPP Use Cases (Smith/Mike)
https://github.com/istopwg/ippsample/wiki/IPP-Use-Cases

- Discussion
  - Draft briefly shown during SC call

  - Smith to move content to the wiki and we can work on it offline and review next time
    - DONE on 12/12/23 - see link above

(14) Other Liaisons - status (Smith, Mike)
https://mopria.org/
https://3mf.io/
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- Discussion
  - Mopria
    - No updates

  - 3MF
    - No updates
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(15) Next SC meetings

- SC - Monday 18 December 2023
  - Review and approve IPP Everywere Logo Policy update
  - Review draft agenda for PWG February 2024 F2F

- SC - Monday 25 December 2023
  - CANCEL due to Christmas holiday

- SC - Monday 1 January 2024
  - CANCEL due to New Year holiday

- SC - Monday 8 January 2024
  - Review final agenda for PWG February 2024 F2F
  - Review draft Plenary slides for PWG February 2024 F2F

- SC - Monday 15 January 2024 
  - Regular call

Previous Action Items

ACTION: Ira to document OID arc usage in PWG
- OPEN - pwg-mib-numbers-20091220.txt
- "arc" is any single value (often least-significant) in an OID - Existing plain text PWG policy and registry for each PWG MIB base OID - IBM gave PWG a permanent arc for LDAP OIDs for Print Schema (RFC 7612)
- LDAP OIDs to be documented in a additional policy and registry in ".../process/"
ACTION: Smith / Mike / Ira/ anybody to draft whitepaper on late binding for best fidelity in Cloud servers, intent vs. process for output fidelity, and the fundamental design ethos of the PWG's work
- OPEN
- Perhaps have as a topic for some future PWG F2F to enumerate core set of concepts with which to construct an outline for the document
- Smith to add discussion of this late binding for the future F2F Plenary
ACTION: 07/15/19 - Smith to look for alternate web hosting providers and / or discuss other solutions with Mike Sweet
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 09/09/19 - Smith / Ira to keep nudging forward IPP Everywhere™ plugfest
- OPEN
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith to create new "PWG Documents Style Policy" and add line numbering, change logs, and other style recommendations there, so that they don't get lost - also add text discussing templates as well
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith / Ira to add discussion of change logs in the new draft "PWG Documents Style Policy"
- OPEN
ACTION: 08/22/22 - Jeremy to reach out to Mike for review of PWG Website update for Security and Privacy at a future PWG SC Tiger Team meeting
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 10/31/22 - Paul to post 3D / IPP article next draft for review at an upcoming Tiger Team meeting
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 05/22/23 - Smith to pull in the videos and try to get copies to Till / Aveek, and also investigate video sizes and hosting choices if we choose to do this ourselves
- OPEN
ACTION: 05/22/23 - Alan / Mike to talk together offline about integrating IDS content / domain into the page content
- OPEN
ACTION: 09/18/23 - Mike to put together some summary slides on PWG website hosting options with recommendations
- OPEN
ACTION: 10/02/23 - All SC members to make lists of all our specs for Deprecated, Obsolete, Historic potential transitions and share the lists so we can review them in a future meeting
- OPEN
ACTION: 10/09/23 - Jeremy to send out call for PWG November 2023 Plenary slides content soon
- OPEN
ACTION: 10/16/23 - Paul to reach out to Kris Iverson (Microsoft) about Drupa 2024
- CLOSED
ACTION: 11/06/23 - Smith to work on "Internet Printing Protocol" technology page for PWG website w/ use cases
- OPEN
ACTION: 11/06/23 - Paul to send update summary on ACI and ICAM to SC
- CLOSED
ACTION: 11/20/23 - Smith to update IPP Everywhere Logo Policy document to include the requirement for an attribution statement
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 11/27/23 - Jeremy/Smith to follow-up with Mike - any progress on Mike's PWG Hosting Organization research?
- CLOSED
ACTION: 11/27/23 - Jeremy to send announcement that PWG officers will all serve another term
- CLOSED