PWG Steering Committee Minutes * 23 August 2021

Attendees

Smith Kennedy (HP Inc, PWG Chair)
Jeremy Leber (Lexmark, PWG Vice Chair)
Ira McDonald (High North, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Alan Sukert (Independent, IDS WG Chair)
Paul Tykodi (TCS, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Bill Wagner (TIC, former Cloud WG and WIMS WG Chair)

Preface

This meeting was announced and chaired by Smith Kennedy.

These minutes were prepared by Ira McDonald with much help from Smith Kennedy.

Agenda

(0) Agenda bashing, IP Policy, minute taker

- Review agenda and state PWG IP Policy
  - Ira McDonald as minute taker

- Revised Agenda:
  (1) Administrivia
  (2) Action Item Review
  (3) PWG Anniversary Plaque - status (Smith)
  (4) PWG August F2F - debrief (All)
  (5) PWG Process 4.0 - status (Smith)
  (6) PWG Website update for Security and Privacy - status (Mike)
  (7) OpenPrinting GSoC/GSoD/LFMP - update (Ira)
  (8) PWG 3D PR Opportunities 2021 - update (Paul)
  (9) AMSC/ISO Liaisons - update (Paul)
  (10) Next SC Meetings

(1) Administrivia
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20210726.htm
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/minutes/pwg-plenary-minutes-20210817.htm

- IPR declaration

- Roll call

- Review minutes of SC meeting (26 July 2021)
  - Approved as posted

- Review minutes of PWG Plenary (17 August 2021)
  - Approved as posted

(2) Action Item Review

ACTION: 07/26/21 - Smith to send ISTO attendee list for PWG Anniversary Plaque event.
- CLOSED

ACTION: 07/26/21 - Smith to figure out what is going on with the Qualcomm logo image, etc.
- CLOSED

ACTION: 07/26/21 - Smith to post draft PWG August F2F Plenary slides to FTP site.
- CLOSED

ACTION: 07/26/21 - Smith to send SC email with objectives and planning framework for 
getting a more crisp, narrowly scoped set of articles written to allow us to move 
forward :)
- CLOSED

(3) PWG Anniversary Plaque - status (Smith)

- Discussion
  - Smith sent Chair, Vice-Chair, Secretary, Mike Sweet, Don Wright, Harry Lewis, Jerry 
    Thrasher

(4) PWG August F2F - debrief (All)
https://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/august-2021-virtual.html
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- Discussion
  - Seemed to go well

  - Covered a lot

  - Vice-Chair took over the passcode dissemination
    - Some just reached out to who they knew

  - GSoC progress report was very good (except for the video playback thrash...)
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ACTION: 08/23/21 - Chair / Vice-Chair: Reach out to client OS vendors to encourage them to attend future F2F events (and to client OS vendors' 3D printing teams too?)
- OPEN

(5) PWG Process 4.0 - status (Smith)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/pwg-process-4.0-20210621-rev.pdf
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/wd-pwg-roles-and-responsibilities-policy-20210802.pdf

- Discussion
  - Smith posted an updated Roles & Responsibilities draft that had been live edited 
    - Don't approve until Process 4.0 is close to a stable draft

  - Review latest Process 4.0 draft next week at SC Tiger Team on (08/30/21)

(6) PWG Website update for Security and Privacy - status (Mike)
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- Discussion
  - Defer until next SC meeting (09/20/21) or later
    - Mike not available today
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ACTION: 08/23/21 - Mike to post a new draft of PWG Website update for Security and Privacy in advance of next SC meeting (09/20/21)

(7) OpenPrinting GSoC/GSoD/LFMP 2020 - Update (Ira)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/openprinting/minutes/OP-Minutes-20210810.htm
https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News-August-2021/
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups-filters/releases/tag/1.28.10

- Discussion
  - See OP News from August 2021

  - See OP Minutes from 10 August 2021
    - GSoC going well and all projects are successful
 
    - Our 5 students have continued their work and made further major progress.

    - All the filters of cups-filters (if not treated appropriately earlier) go 
      through 3 student projects:
      - First, getting turned into a filter function by Pratyush;

      - Second, made working without PPD file but based on IPP attributes instead 
        by Suraj; and 
      - Third, landing in the universal CUPS filter/filter function by Pranshu.  

    - Perfect team work!

  - GSoD is not active for Linux Foundation in 2021

  - LFMP 2021 projects are TBD after GSoC 2021 projects are completed

  - CUPS Filters v1.28.10 release on 17 August 2021 by Till Kamppeter
    - Bug fix release: More reliable legacy CUPS browsing in cups-browsed, improved 
      PDF printer sample PPDs, with borderless page sizes, eliminated unneeded 
      dependency on DjVu font, minor fixes

  - Aveek Basu presented GSoC Project Status to the IPP WG at the PWG August F2F on  
    Wednesday 08/18/21

  - OP Steering Committee
    - OP monthly calls 07/13/21, 08/10/21, and upcoming 09/07/21

(8) PWG 3D PR Opportunities 2021 - update (Paul)

- Discussion
  - Large "document" drafted previously stalled and didn't work

  - Let's restart by starting small on smaller scopes and then leverage from those 
    rather than starting with a compendium / text book and trying to extract from that

  - Topics / requested articles received by Paul
    - "Security in IPP 3D and IPP Cloud Printing Model" (3D Printing Industry)
    - "IPP Encrypted Jobs and Documents and IPP 3D" (3dprint.com)
    - Three article deal (Specialist Printing - they do both 2D and 3D printing) - do 
      the first one and pick two others
    - IPP Overview and Roadmap
      - Discuss combining different "IPP planes" together to create different types of
        printing solutions
      - This topic will require more SC / WG officer oversight
    - IPP Security
    - IPP Production Printing Extensions
    - IPP 3D
    - IPP Encrypted Jobs and Documents
    - IPP Enterprise Printing
    - IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions
    - IPP Shared Infrastructure Extensions
    - IPP Driverless Printing Extensions
    - IPP Interoperability

ACTION: 08/23/21 - Smith to email PWG 3D PR topics out for further discussion and evolution
- CLOSED

(9) AMSC/ISO Liaisons - update (Paul)

- Discussion
  - Paul to frame the PWG 3D PR topics and send that over to ASTM contact (Pat), 
    Paul @ NIST, and Roxanne @ Link3D

  - See about getting some folks to come to a PWG 3D informal gathering?

(10) Next SC meetings (All)
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc

- SC Tiger Team - Monday 30 August 2021 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - review Roles & Responsibilities brief? 
    - validated Document Editor role definition
  - review Process 4.0 (if time available)?

- SC - Monday 6 September 2021 
  - Canceled due to Labor Day

- SC Tiger Team - Monday 13 September 2021 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - review Process 4.0

- SC - Monday 20 September 2021 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - Website update for Security and Privacy - next draft review

- SC Tiger Team - Monday 27 September 2021 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - document review

Previous Action Items

ACTION: Ira to document OID arc usage in PWG
- OPEN - pwg-mib-numbers-20091220.txt
- "arc" is any single value (often least-significant) in an OID - Existing plain text PWG policy and registry for each PWG MIB base OID - IBM gave PWG a permanent arc for LDAP OIDs for Print Schema (RFC 7612)
- LDAP OIDs to be documented in a additional policy and registry in ".../process/"
ACTION: Smith/Mike/Ira/anybody to draft whitepaper on late binding for best fidelity in Cloud servers, intent vs. process for output fidelity, and the fundamental design ethos of the PWG's work
- OPEN
- Perhaps have as a topic for some future PWG F2F to enumerate core set of concepts with which to construct an outline for the document
- Smith to add discussion of this late binding for the future F2F Plenary
ACTION: Smith/Jessica to update "liaison agreement template" or create new "license agreement template" that would allow a partner to grant to PWG the right to use or reference content within - should this be created by the PWG or by the org that is granting the license?
- OPEN
ACTION: 12/03/18 - Alan to pursue liaison / engagement with ISO JTC1 SC28 and do what is needed in IDS WG meetings
- IN PROGRESS
- Alan has a dialogue w/ Masahiro-san of ISO JTC1 SC28
- Alan held an IDS meeting on 01/24/19
ACTION: 02/25/19 - Paul to reach out to MT Connect on behalf of PWG
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 05/20/19 - Ira / Alan to add "Other interesting reflectors and groups" section to the IDS WG page on the PWG website
- OPEN
ACTION: 05/20/19 - Paul / Mike to maybe do some development work on embedding 3MF job tickets
- OPEN
ACTION: 07/01/19 - Smith to talk to Mike about updating the 3D page so that it lists the growing list of 3D related PWG documents
- OPEN
ACTION: 07/15/19 - Smith to look for alternate web hosting providers and / or discuss other solutions with Mike Sweet
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 09/09/19 - Smith/Ira to keep nudging forward IPP Everywhere™ plugfest
- OPEN
ACTION: 11/18/19 - Smith to work w/ ISTO and Mike to get PWG business notes delivered to all three PWG officers
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 12/16/19 - Smith to get events page listed on PWG meetings page
- OPEN
ACTION: 02/24/20 - Smith: Reach out to Kyle from PrinterLogic to check in maybe in a few weeks
- OPEN
ACTION: 03/23/20 - Paul to write initial draft of PWG article for Specialist Printing Worldwide for review by PWG SC on 04/20/20
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 04/06/20 - Smith to search IPP reflector archives for latest registrations since February 2020 Virtual F2F
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith to create new "PWG Documents Style Policy" and add line numbering, change logs, and other style recommendations there, so that they don't get lost - also add text discussing templates as well
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith/Ira to add discussion of change logs in the new draft "PWG Documents Style Policy"
- OPEN
ACTION: 06/29/20 - Smith to ask Mike Rhines if Mopria has any 3D Printing interests
- OPEN
ACTION: 07/27/20 - Smith to figure out what PWG Policy drafts already exist and then reboot to produce the PWG Process 4.0 outline
- OPEN
- Refresh from action of 06/29/20
ACTION: 07/27/20 - Smith to reach out to Xerox (Chris Rizzo), Kyocera (Anthony Suarez), Ricoh (Uli Wehner), and Canon (Steven Young) to see if they have any printers that might be getting close to being certified so that they can be named in the IPP Everywhere press release
- OPEN
ACTION: 07/27/20 - Smith to create the IPP State of the Union deck for 2020
- OPEN
- Refresh from action of 06/15/20
ACTION: 08/18/20 - Smith to add to Plenary slides that printers don't need to re-certify when new version of IPP Self-Cert Tools is released
- OPEN
ACTION: 08/24/20 - Smith to codify "https" URI scheme usage in the PWG Network Infrastructure Policy document, etc. Also consider how to move away from "ftp.pwg.org" to something more like "files.pwg.org" or "www.pwg.org/files".
- OPEN
ACTION: 08/24/20 - Smith to contact Sean Kau (Google) to see if PWG and Google are both going in the same direction and whether Google is interested in either working together on a press release or if they would object to us posting an informational document on IPP and Chrome OS for local and cloud printing.
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 08/24/20 - Smith to ping Mike Rhines (Qualcomm, Mopria liaison) again about scope / areas of interest for the IPP State of the Union 2020 presentation to November 2020 Mopria meeting
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 09/08/20 - Smith to announce the PWG November 2020 Virtual F2F around 09/21/20 to pwg-announce
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 09/08/20 - Smith to update PWG Roles and Responsibilities policy and post and get approval offline by email
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 09/08/20 - Smith to get initial draft of IPP Everywhere v1.1 update press release done with Anne Price and on to the SC reflector
- IN PROGRESS
- Refresh from action of 08/24/20
ACTION: 09/21/20 - Paul to send in an updated list of PWG documents to AMSC
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 11/16/20 - All to discuss IPP Everywhere v2.0 as a topic every 4-6 weeks
- OPEN
ACTION: 11/16/20 - Smith to connect with Apple / Microsoft / Google member primary and alternate contacts directly to encourage them to be present if possible (they've all been absent recently)
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 11/30/20 - Paul to produce a few "themes" for PR article topics and share with the PWG SC on the reflector for us to discuss via email or on a future call. Ideas: 3D printing security? / IPP 3D Everywhere? semantics? fundamentals / 2D vs. 3D printing?
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 11/30/20 - Smith to contact Mike Rhines to see if there is a need for further discussion with Mopria about "client-info-col" / "document-format-details"
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 01/14/21 - Smith to ask Michelle for the Antitrust Reminder statement from ISTO and also make sure it is applicable / legitimate for not only USA but is rather applicable worldwide.
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 01/14/21 - Smith / Ira to get updated release information / roadmap for IPP Everywhere Self-Cert from Mike for PWG February 2021 F2F Plenary slides.
- OPEN
ACTION: 01/25/21 - Smith to look into adding toll free calling to PWG WebEx account and discuss in future SC meeting
- OPEN
ACTION: 02/22/21 - Smith to turn off the waiting room stuff and private chat
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 02/22/21 - Smith to inquire about price of WebEx toll-free phone support, and also drop our Zoom account
- OPEN
ACTION: 03/08/21 - Ira / Jeremy to investigate hosting organization alternatives for the PWG
- OPEN
ACTION: 04/05/21 - All - Look up Mike's message PWG website update for security and privacy and please provide comments if you have any
- IN PROGRESS
- Alan and Bill replied with some good detailed feedback
ACTION: 04/19/21 - All to tell Ira / Jeremy about standards hosting organizations you are familiar with that are amenable to the sort of IETF-style of standards development practices
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 05/17/21 - Smith to follow up with Roxanne about the new draft that reorients IPP Encrypted Jobs and Documents (TRUSTNOONE) on S/MIME 4.0
- OPEN
- Smith can use Roxanne's previous / current email address to send this over
ACTION: 06/14/21 - Smith to update Roles & Responsibilities to include...something that he will look up
- OPEN
ACTION: 06/14/21 - Smith to schedule an internal sync meeting on the PWG 3D Printing, Security, and Privacy article draft (Smith / Paul / Mike / other interested parties)
- OPEN
ACTION: 06/14/21 - Smith to schedule online live review of the PWG 3D Printing, Security, and Privacyarticle draft with writer Randy and Anne
- OPEN
ACTION: 06/28/21 - Smith to have IEEE-ISTO send the PWG Anniversary Plaque to Smith and then have IEEE-ISTO invite the SC + Mike + Don Wright + Harry Lewis to the event. Also Jerry Thrasher?
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 07/26/21 - Smith to send ISTO attendee list for PWG Anniversary Plaque event.
- CLOSED
ACTION: 07/26/21 - Smith to figure out what is going on with the Qualcomm logo image, etc.
- CLOSED
ACTION: 07/26/21 - Smith to post draft PWG August F2F Plenary slides to FTP site.
- CLOSED
ACTION: 07/26/21 - Smith to send SC email with objectives and planning framework for getting a more crisp, narrowly scoped set of articles written to allow us to move forward :)
- CLOSED