PWG Steering Committee Minutes * 19 April 2021

Attendees

Smith Kennedy (HP Inc, PWG Chair)
Jeremy Leber (Lexmark, PWG Vice Chair)
Ira McDonald (High North, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Alan Sukert (Independent, IDS WG Chair)
Paul Tykodi (TCS, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Bill Wagner (TIC, former Cloud WG and WIMS WG Chair)

Preface

This meeting was announced and chaired by Smith Kennedy.

These minutes were prepared by Ira McDonald with much help from Smith Kennedy.

Agenda

(0) Agenda bashing, IP Policy, minute taker

- Review agenda and state PWG IP Policy
  - Ira McDonald as minute taker

- Revised Agenda:
  (1) Administrivia
  (2) Action Item Review
  (3) PWG/OP May 2021 Virtual F2F - Plenary slides (Smith)
  (4) Transition to WebEx - status (All)
  (5) IPP WG Charter Update Approval (All)
  (6) PWG Process 3.1/4.0 - status (Smith)
  (7) PWG Website update for Security and Privacy - status (Mike)
  (8) OpenPrinting GSoC/GSoD/LFMP - update (Ira)
  (9) PWG 3D PR Opportunities 2021 - update (Paul)
  (10) PDF Association / 3Dprint.com articles
  (11) AMSC/ISO Liaisons - update (Paul)
  (12) Hosting organizations for the PWG - discuss (Ira/Jeremy)
  (13) Next SC Meetings

(1) Administrivia
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20210405.htm

- IPR declaration

- Roll call

- Review minutes of SC meeting (5 April 2021)
  - Approved as posted

(2) Action Item Review

ACTION: 04/05/21 - Smith to reply about PWG/OP May 2021 Virtual F2F agenda to Ira, Sean Kau, 
Mike Sweet, and Michael Vrhel about swapping the times
- CLOSED
- all agreed to proposed changed session times

ACTION: 04/05/21 - All - Look up Mike's message PWG website update for security and privacy 
and please provide comments if you have any
- IN PROGRESS
- Alan and Bill replied with some good detailed feedback

(3) PWG/OP May 2021 Virtual F2F - Plenary slides (Smith)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/pwg-plenary-may-2021-d3.pdf
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- Discussion
  - OP times all good w/ presenters

  - Two members' names and one logo image were updated
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ACTION: 04/19/21 - Smith to remind WG Chairs and liaison reps to provide slides to Smith for May 2021 F2F Plenary agenda items for 3D Scanning and INFRA Cloud are both now BoFs
- CLOSED
- Smith sent reminder on 04/19/21
ACTION: 04/19/21 - Smith to check with Mike on dates of upcoming IPP Everywhere Self Certification toolsets etc.
- CLOSED
- Noted in May 2021 F2F IPP WG slides reviewed on 04/22/21
ACTION: 04/19/21 - Smith to update Gantt chart in May 2021 F2F Plenary
- OPEN
(4) Transition to WebEx - status (All)
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- Discussion
  - We have transitioned to Webex

  - Zoom available (paid for yearly subscription) but will remain unused

  - Topic can be closed?
    - YES
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ACTION: 04/19/21 - Smith to look at the costs for expanded PWG WebEx calling options (call-me and/or 800 call-ins)
- OPEN
(5) IPP WG Charter Update Approval (All)
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/charter/ch-ipp-charter-20210409.pdf (posted on 04/20/21)
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- Discussion
  - Process is approved with no objections
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(6) PWG Process 3.1/4.0 - status (Smith/Ira)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/pwg-process-4.0-20210329-rev.pdf
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/wd-call-for-objections-policy-20210301-rev.docx
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- Discussion
  - Spend time on PWG Process v4.0 at next SC Tiger Team call (04/26/21)

  - Merge PWG Call for Objections Policy into the "new" PWG Process v4.0 latest draft
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(7) PWG Website update for Security and Privacy - status (Mike)
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- Discussion
  - Mike sent out a draft new page discussing to improve the structure of the website for 
    improving security and privacy on 03/18/21

  - Alan and Bill provided feedback
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ACTION: 04/19/21 - Smith to invite Mike to next SC Tiger Team (04/26/21) to have him present and review received feedback on proposed PWG webpage for Security and Privacy
- CLOSED
- Mike agreed on 04/20/21 to come to first half of next SC Tiger Team (04/26/21)

(8) OpenPrinting GSoC/GSoD/LFMP 2020 - Update (Ira)
https://openprinting.github.io
https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc
https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
https://communitybridge.org/
https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News-March-2021/
https://openprinting.github.io/cups/ (home page)
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/ (repository)
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/releases/tag/v2.3.3op2
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pappl/releases/tag/v1.0.3
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups-filters/releases/tag/1.28.8

- Discussion
  - CUPS
    - CUPS OP current release is v2.3.3op2 on 1 February 2021
      - This is the last release of the 2.3.x series. To mark that CUPS upstream 
        development is now under OpenPrinting, we will start 2.4.x.
      - Ubuntu Hirsute Hippo (21.04) will ship with CUPS 2.3.3op2, also the CUPS Snap 
        currently uses this version.

    - CUPS now has a new home page and what was formerly our OP fork is now the official 
      CUPS repository.  Upcoming releases will be of the new 2.4.x series, now without 
      "opX" suffix now.


  - PAPPL v1.0.3 - released on 21 April 2021
    - The Set-Printer-Attributes operation did not save changes to "printer-contact-col"
    - Fixed using the “auto” driver without an IEEE-1284 device ID string (Issue #154)
    - Fixed some more threading issues (Issue #155, Issue #162)
    - Fixed bogus USB error reporting (Issue #156)
    - Fixed testpappl on systems without Avahi running (Issue #159)
    - Adding a printer now works for names with special characters (Issue #161)


  - CUPS Filters v1.28.8 - released on 25 March 2021
    - Bug fix release.
    - Ubuntu Hirsute Hippo (21.04) will ship with CUPS Filters v1.28.8
 

  - OP GSoC 2021 - planning - in progress
    - Pandemic limited Till and Aveek's ability to travel around to universities to 
      evangelize the GSoC efforts

    - Also shortened duration of GSoC projects limited the scope of the projects

    - DONE - 29 January 2021 - Organization Applications Open - LF applied

    - DONE - 19 February 2021 - Organization Application Deadline

    - DONE - 9 March 2021 - Organizations Announced - LF accepted

    - DONE - 29 March 2021 to 13 April 2021 - Student Applications - 4 student applications

    - 17 May 2021 - Student Projects Announced

    - 7 June 2021 to 16 August 2021 - Coding

    - 31 August 2021 - Results Announced

    - Project ideas have been posted for this year’s GSoC.

    - Student projects will only be half the hours.

 
  - OP GSoD (Google Season of Docs) 2021 - planning - in progress
    - DONE - 19 February 2021 - Organization Applications Open - LF applied

    - DONE - 26 March 2021 - Organization Application Deadline

    - DONE - 16 April 2021 - Google publishes list of accepted organizations - LF accepted

    - 17 May 2021 - Technical writer hiring deadline - 2 technical writer applications

    - 16 June 2021 - Organization monthly evaluations to report on the status of their 
      project

    - 16-30 November 2021 - Final project evaluation and case study

    - 14 December 2021 - Google publishes the GSoD 2021 case studies and aggregate project 
      data


  - LFMP (Linux Foundation Mentorship Program) 2021 - planning - in progress
    - Plan to augment GSoC 2021 projects - perhaps new IPP projects

 
  - OP Steering Committee
    - OP monthly calls 03/02/21, 04/06/21, and upcoming 05/18/21

(9) PWG 3D PR Opportunities 2021 - update (Paul)

- Discussion
  - Randy is working on the first draft - should be available soon

  - Drupa virtual presentation is this Wednesday

  - Content produced from the presentation will be given back to us

  - Moderator is able to get questions and do some Q&A, but virtual is less interactive

  - Paul to confirm the date / time
    - 11:30 - 11:50am EDT on Wednesday 04/21/21

(10) PDF Association / 3Dprint.com articles

- Discussion
  - Ad-hoc that Paul was asked to chair

  - Upcoming week-long workshop will have all the people who are interested in engaging 
    in this ad-hoc

(11) AMSC/ISO Liaisons - Status (Paul)

- Discussion
  - Writing to Paul Witherill (F42) this week

(12) Hosting organizations for the PWG
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- Discussion
  - No update

  - No longer a super-urgent issue now that we have our Antitrust Policy and our
    2021 PWG membership renewals have been completed?
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ACTION: 04/19/21 - All to tell Ira / Jeremy about standards hosting organizations you are familiar with that are amenable to the sort of IETF-style of standards development practices
- OPEN

(13) Next SC meetings (All)
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc

- SC Tiger Team - Monday 26 April 2021 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - document review
    - discuss PWG webpage on Security and Privacy (Mike) - first 30 minutes    
    - review Process 4.0 draft from 03/29/21 (Smith)
    - any final tweaks to PWG Plenary slides (All)
 
- SC - Monday 3 May 2021
  - CANCELED due to 4-7 May 2021 PWG/OP Virtual F2F

- SC Tiger Team - Monday 10 May April 2021 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - document review
    - Ira not available

- SC - Monday 17 May April 2021 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - debrief May 2021 PWG/OP Virtual F2F

- SC Tiger Team - Monday 24 May April 2021 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - document review

Previous Action Items

ACTION: Ira to document OID arc usage in PWG
- OPEN - pwg-mib-numbers-20091220.txt
- "arc" is any single value (often least-significant) in an OID - Existing plain text PWG policy and registry for each PWG MIB base OID - IBM gave PWG a permanent arc for LDAP OIDs for Print Schema (RFC 7612)
- LDAP OIDs to be documented in a additional policy and registry in ".../process/"
ACTION: Smith/Mike/Ira/anybody to draft whitepaper on late binding for best fidelity in Cloud servers, intent vs. process for output fidelity, and the fundamental design ethos of the PWG's work
- OPEN
- Perhaps have as a topic for some future PWG F2F to enumerate core set of concepts with which to construct an outline for the document
- Smith to add discussion of this late binding for the future F2F Plenary
ACTION: Smith/Jessica to update "liaison agreement template" or create new "license agreement template" that would allow a partner to grant to PWG the right to use or reference content within - should this be created by the PWG or by the org that is granting the license?
- OPEN
ACTION: 12/03/18 - Alan to pursue liaison / engagement with ISO JTC1 SC28 and do what is needed in IDS WG meetings
- IN PROGRESS
- Alan has a dialogue w/ Masahiro-san of ISO JTC1 SC28
- Alan held an IDS meeting on 01/24/19
ACTION: 02/25/19 - Paul to reach out to MT Connect on behalf of PWG
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 05/20/19 - Ira / Alan to add "Other interesting reflectors and groups" section to the IDS WG page on the PWG website
- OPEN
ACTION: 05/20/19 - Paul / Mike to maybe do some development work on embedding 3MF job tickets
- OPEN
ACTION: 07/01/19 - Smith to talk to Mike about updating the 3D page so that it lists the growing list of 3D related PWG documents
- OPEN
ACTION: 07/15/19 - Smith to look for alternate web hosting providers and / or discuss other solutions with Mike Sweet
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 09/09/19 - Smith/Ira to keep nudging forward IPP Everywhere™ plugfest
- OPEN
ACTION: 11/18/19 - Smith to work w/ ISTO and Mike to get PWG business notes delivered to all three PWG officers
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 12/16/19 - Smith to get events page listed on PWG meetings page
- OPEN
ACTION: 02/24/20 - Smith: Reach out to Kyle from PrinterLogic to check in maybe in a few weeks
- OPEN
ACTION: 03/23/20 - Paul to write initial draft of PWG article for Specialist Printing Worldwide for review by PWG SC on 04/20/20
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 04/06/20 - Smith to search IPP reflector archives for latest registrations since February 2020 Virtual F2F
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith to create new "PWG Documents Style Policy" and add line numbering, change logs, and other style recommendations there, so that they don't get lost - also add text discussing templates as well
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith/Ira to add discussion of change logs in the new draft "PWG Documents Style Policy"
- OPEN
ACTION: 06/29/20 - Smith to ask Mike Rhines if Mopria has any 3D Printing interests
- OPEN
ACTION: 07/27/20 - Smith to figure out what PWG Policy drafts already exist and then reboot to produce the PWG Process 4.0 outline
- OPEN
- Refresh from action of 06/29/20
ACTION: 07/27/20 - Smith to reach out to Xerox (Chris Rizzo), Kyocera (Anthony Suarez), Ricoh (Uli Wehner), and Canon (Steven Young) to see if they have any printers that might be getting close to being certified so that they can be named in the IPP Everywhere press release
- OPEN
ACTION: 07/27/20 - Smith to create the IPP State of the Union deck for 2020
- OPEN
- Refresh from action of 06/15/20
ACTION: 08/18/20 - Smith to add to Plenary slides that printers don't need to re-certify when new version of IPP Self-Cert Tools is released
- OPEN
ACTION: 08/24/20 - Smith to codify "https" URI scheme usage in the PWG Network Infrastructure Policy document, etc. Also consider how to move away from "ftp.pwg.org" to something more like "files.pwg.org" or "www.pwg.org/files".
- OPEN
ACTION: 08/24/20 - Smith to contact Sean Kau (Google) to see if PWG and Google are both going in the same direction and whether Google is interested in either working together on a press release or if they would object to us posting an informational document on IPP and Chrome OS for local and cloud printing.
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 08/24/20 - Smith to ping Mike Rhines (Qualcomm, Mopria liaison) again about scope / areas of interest for the IPP State of the Union 2020 presentation to November 2020 Mopria meeting
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 09/08/20 - Smith to announce the PWG November 2020 Virtual F2F around 09/21/20 to pwg-announce
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 09/08/20 - Smith to update PWG Roles and Responsibilities policy and post and get approval offline by email
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 09/08/20 - Smith to get initial draft of IPP Everywhere v1.1 update press release done with Anne Price and on to the SC reflector
- IN PROGRESS
- Refresh from action of 08/24/20
ACTION: 09/21/20 - Paul to send in an updated list of PWG documents to AMSC
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 11/16/20 - All to discuss IPP Everywhere v2.0 as a topic every 4-6 weeks
- OPEN
ACTION: 11/16/20 - Smith to connect with Apple / Microsoft / Google member primary and alternate contacts directly to encourage them to be present if possible (they've all been absent recently)
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 11/30/20 - Paul to produce a few "themes" for PR article topics and share with the PWG SC on the reflector for us to discuss via email or on a future call. Ideas: 3D printing security? / IPP 3D Everywhere? semantics? fundamentals / 2D vs. 3D printing?
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 11/30/20 - Smith to contact Mike Rhines to see if there is a need for further discussion with Mopria about "client-info-col" / "document-format-details"
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 01/14/21 - Smith to ask Michelle for the Antitrust Reminder statement from ISTO and also make sure it is applicable / legitimate for not only USA but is rather applicable worldwide.
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 01/14/21 - Smith / Ira to get updated release information / roadmap for IPP Everywhere Self-Cert from Mike for PWG February 2021 F2F Plenary slides.
- OPEN
ACTION: 01/25/21 - Smith to look into adding toll free calling to PWG WebEx account and discuss in future SC meeting
- OPEN
ACTION: 02/22/21 - Smith to turn off the waiting room stuff and private chat
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 02/22/21 - Smith to inquire about price of WebEx toll-free phone support, and also drop our Zoom account
- OPEN
ACTION: 03/08/21 - Ira / Jeremy to investigate hosting organization alternatives for the PWG
- OPEN
ACTION: 04/05/21 - Smith to reply about PWG/OP May 2021 Virtual F2F agenda to Ira, Sean Kau, Mike Sweet, and Michael Vrhel about swapping the times - CLOSED
- all agreed to proposed changed session times
ACTION: 04/05/21 - All - Look up Mike's message PWG website update for security and privacy and please provide comments if you have any
- IN PROGRESS
- Alan and Bill replied with some good detailed feedback