This meeting was announced and chaired by Smith Kennedy.
These minutes were prepared by Ira McDonald with much help from Smith Kennedy.
- Review agenda and state PWG IP Policy - Ira McDonald as minute taker - Revised Agenda: (1) Administrivia (2) Xerox 2020 Dues (Alan) (3) IDS WG Chair replacement - Status (Alan) (4) IPP Everywhere Logo Guidelines - Review (Mike) (5) PWG potential shift from WebEx to Zoom (Ira) (6) PWG May 2020 F2F - Status (All) (7) Apple Developer account (Smith) (8) PWG Process 4.0 - Status (Smith) (9) GSoC 2020 Planning (Ira / All) (10) PWG Pending Press Releases (11) AMSC/ISO liaisons - Status (Paul) (12) Toolset thoughts (All) (13) Next SC meetings (All) (14) Action Items - Review (All)
- IPR declaration - Roll call - Review minutes of SC meeting (24 February 2020) - Approved as posted
- Discussion
- Xerox has been late on 2020 dues
- Alan worked on it and Xerox is now paid up
- Smith wondered if the ISTO did their due diligence with updating the contact info
in the fall of 2019 (before sending out membership dues notices)
- Discussion
- Alan working hard to convince two people to be co-chairs of IDS WG
- Bill volunteered previously to act as IDS WG Secretary pro tem (thanks!)
- still need to find a long-term candidate for this role
- Need to work on mentorship in the PWG within the WGs and for the SC
- Need to answer the question "How does the PWG relate to what I'm doing?"
- Shouldn't this be articulated in the WG charter?
- Discussion
- For the SC: are there legal questions?
- Does there need to be some type of license agreement that goes with this?
- Do we care about our logo being adjacent to a "competing technology"?
- Consensus: No
- Normative language about the positioning of the logo, etc. has to be a suggestion
- What happens if the logo is "misused"?
- We can cross that bridge when we get to it
- We should not state that in the IPP Everywhere Self Certification doc
- Add a statement that ordering of logos is not important
- Mike to update the proposed text and post as last call feedback on IPP Everywhere
Self-Cert WG Last Call
- New text will be in the next draft of that doc after review in IPP WG
- "The trademarked logo cannot be modified or combined with other logos"
- Discussion
- Many other SDOs are increasingly disenchanted with WebEx
- or have already dumped WebEx in favor of Zoom (e.g., TCG this week)
- We currently pay ISTO $90 / month for WebEx
- Zoom pricing
- "Pro" plan should be sufficient for our needs, @ $15 / month / host, which
includes up to 100 participants
- Next tier up at Zoom would be $200 / month ($20 / month / host with a minimum
of 10 hosts)
- Join by Toll-free dialing or Call Me (starting at $100/mo)
- Some companies have Zoom problems (e.g., MS Outlook integration) but no WebEx
problems, so different people have slightly different experiences
- WebEx web browser client is fine as a passive attendee, but doesn't work for
presenting or hosting
- Since PWG is not a separate own legal entity, have to convince ISTO to move?
- Are we free to move on our own?
- Perhaps we could be the lead for an ISTO investigation
ACTION: 03/09/20 - Smith to engage Joni (at ISTO) in a discussion on exploring other
teleconference providers since we have been unhappy with WebEx for several years
- Discussion
- Smith recommends making May 2020 F2F virtual
- Because of risk of COVID-19 preventing Lexmark from hosting the event
- Virtualize the May 2020 F2F
- August 2020 F2F is still at risk for COVID-19 so keep it virtual
- Try to do an in-person in November (somewhere warm?)?
- Check back in in August?
- Make August or November F2F in-person?
- Is August too soon? Yes so keep virtual
- Maybe November - check in on this in middle/late summer
- Discussion
- Smith has been working with ISTO to get the PWG signed up with an Apple Developer
account
- Apple requires the applicant applying for an organization account be an *employee*
of the legal entity organization to be the applicant
- Smith will continue to work with Joni to get ISTO to sign up for an Apple Developer
organization account for IEEE-ISTO
- Once that account is created, Joni can then add Smith's chair@pwg.org account as
an admin and we should be free to set up our group, etc.
- Discussion
- Jeremy to begin helping Smith with IPP Registry Policy drafts offline to help move
documents forward
- Discussion
- Proceeding well
- Linux Foundation was accepted as a mentoring organization on 02/20/20
- GSoC 2020 OP mentors have been contacted
- Not having OP monthly call until 17 March 2020 (due to schedule conflicts)
- GSoC 2020 Timeline
- DONE - 14 January - Mentoring organization applications submissions start
- DONE - 5 February - Mentoring organization application submissions end
- DONE - 5-19 February - Google program administrators review organization applications
- DONE - 20 February - List of accepted mentoring organizations published
- 20 February to 16 March - Potential student participants discuss ideas w/ mentors
- 16 March - Student application submissions start
- 31 March - Student application submissions end
- 14 April - Student slot requests due from Org Admins
- 23 April - Student Project selections due from Org Admins
- 27 April - Accepted student projects announced
- May 18 Coding officially begins!
- 15 June - Mentors and students can begin submitting Phase 1 evaluations
- 19 June - Phase 1 Evaluation deadline
- 13 July - Mentors and students can begin submitting Phase 2 evaluations
- 17 July - Phase 2 Evaluation deadline
- 10-17 August - Final week: Students submit their final work and mentor evaluations
- 17-24 August - Mentors submit final student evaluations
- 25 August - Final results of Google Summer of Code 2020 announced
- October - GSoC 2020 Mentor Summit
- Discussion - Deferred
- Discussion - Deferred
- Discussion - Deferred
- SC Tiger Team - Monday 16 March 2020 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern - document review - SC - Monday 23 March 2020 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern - regular meeting - SC Tiger Team - Monday 30 March 2020 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern - document review - SC - Monday 6 April 2020 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern - regular meeting
- Discussion - Deferred (but action item status updated - see below)