PWG Steering Committee Minutes * 23 September 2019

Attendees

Smith Kennedy (HP Inc, PWG Chair)
Ira McDonald (High North, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Paul Tykodi (TCS, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Bill Wagner (TIC, former Cloud WG Chair, former WIMS WG Chair)

Preface

This meeting was announced and chaired by Smith Kennedy.

These minutes were prepared by Ira McDonald with much help from Smith Kennedy.

Agenda

(0) Agenda bashing, IP Policy, minute taker

- Review agenda and state PWG IP Policy
  - Ira McDonald as minute taker

- Revised Agenda:
  (1) Administrivia
  (2) AMSC/ISO liaisons - Status (Paul)
  (3) PWG November F2F Agenda - Review (Smith)
  (4) PWG Last Calls - Status (Smith/Alan/Ira)
  (5) Future of PWG / PR efforts - Status (Smith/Ira)
  (6) Open Printing GSoC 2019 / new website - Status (Ira)
  (7) ISO JTC1 SC28 liaison - Status (Alan)
  (8) Other liaisons (3MF, Mopria, etc.) - Status (Smith)
  (9) PWG Website - Status (Smith)
  (10) Review draft IPP Registration Policy
  (11) Next SC meetings
  (12) Action Items - Review (All)

(1) Administrivia
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20190909.htm

- IPR declaration

- Roll call
  - Alan can't attend (traveling to CCUF in Singapore)

- Review minutes of SC meeting (9 September 2019)
  - Approved as posted

(2) AMSC/ISO liaisons - Status (Paul)

- Discussion
  - Joni Sterlacci (ISTO) is helping us with the INCITS liaison agreement

  - We may need to bring Joni up to speed some more because she is echoing back to us 
    things we already know

  - ASTM is a liaison member with the INCITS technical committee and has their 
    paperwork done
    - How did ASTM do it? 
    - Did ASTM pay a fee? 
    - Did ASTM sign the INCITS membership agreement? 
    - Who is the ASTM representative?  Pat Picariello
    - Does ASTM's relationship with ANSI help protect them? 
    - Could our relationship with ISTO similarly protect us?

ACTION: 09/23/19 - Smith to setup a call with Joni Sterlacci and Paul to see if we can cut through the fog to see the log jam w/ INCITS liaison and discuss how to clear that log jam
- OPEN

(3) PWG November F2F Agenda - Review (Smith)

- Discussion
  - Is it possible to bump out Virtual F2F until 20-21 November 2019?
    - No objections to moving it and it would be better for 2 of us, so moving it

(4) PWG Last Calls - Status (Smith/Ira)
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- Discussion
  - IPP System Service v1.0
    - PWG Last Call ended 13 September 2019
    - quorum achieved (30% of 25 members = 8 responses)
    - 12 responses - 5 with comments
    - Mike is working on the LCRC now
    - PWG Last Call Process APPROVED
    - PWG Formal Vote before / across the November 2019 F2F?

  - IDS WG Charter
    - PWG Call for Objections ended 26 August 2019
    - no objections
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ACTION: 09/23/19 - Ira to update IDS WG Stable charter to be Final charter dated 26 August 2019 and post to charter directory on FTP site with correct filename
- CLOSED
ACTION: 09/23/19 - Smith to ask Mike to update the charter link on IDS WG page
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ids/charter/ch-ids-charter-20190826.pdf
- OPEN
ACTION: 09/23/19 - Smith to announce new IDS WG charter
- OPEN

(5) Future of PWG / PR efforts - Status (Smith/Ira)

- Discussion
  - Smith, Ira and Anne are working on PWG PR but aren't there yet

  - Smith did announce IPP Authentication Methods Best Practice, so that isn't an 
    impediment to PR announcements anymore

ACTION: 09/23/19 - Smith to make sure PWG PR effort doesn't lose momentum
- OPEN

(6) Open Printing GSoC 2019 / new website - Status (Ira)

- Discussion
  - GSoC 2019 update
    - DONE - 26 August to 2 September - Mentors submit final student evaluations
      - All 5 OP projects finished successfully

  - OP new website 
    - Development has resumed now that GSoC 2019 is complete
    - OP new website is intentionally not live yet while under construction

(7) ISO JTC1 SC28 liaison - Status (Alan)
https://www.iso.org/committee/45314.html (ISO JTC1 SC28 - Office Equipment)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Criteria
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- Discussion
  - No updates - Alan is traveling
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(8) Other liaisons (3MF, Mopria, etc.) - Status (Smith)
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- Discussion
  - No update
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(9) PWG Website - Status (Smith)
https://www.icdsoft.com/

- Discussion
  - Registration policy document in review

  - Registration email documents created in PWG FTP repository

(10) Review draft IPP Registration Policy
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/process/ipp-registry-policy-20190910.docx
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- Discussion
  - Smith did live editing as per Ira / Bill / Smith feedback, and will post update
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(11) Next SC meetings (All)
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc

- SC - Monday 7 October 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - regular meeting

- SC - Monday 21 October 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - regular meeting

- SC - Monday 4 November 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - review draft Plenary slides

- SC - Monday 18 November 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - CANCEL due to PWG F2F 20-21 November

(12) Action Items - Review (All)

- Discussion
  - Deferred (but action item status updated - see below)

Previous Action Items

ACTION: Ira to document OID arc usage in PWG
- OPEN - pwg-mib-numbers-20091220.txt
- "arc" is any single value (often least-significant) in an OID - Existing plain text PWG policy and registry for each PWG MIB base OID - IBM gave PWG a permanent arc for LDAP OIDs for Print Schema (RFC 7612)
- LDAP OIDs to be documented in a additional policy and registry in ".../process/"
ACTION: Smith/Mike/Ira/anybody to draft whitepaper on late binding for best fidelity in Cloud servers, intent vs. process for output fidelity, and the fundamental design ethos of the PWG's work
- OPEN
- Perhaps have as a topic for some future PWG F2F to enumerate core set of concepts with which to construct an outline for the document
- Smith to add discussion of this late binding for the future F2F Plenary
ACTION: Smith to write an outline of the structure of Process 4.0 for SC review
- OPEN
ACTION: Smith/Jessica to update "liaison agreement template" or create new "license agreement template" that would allow a partner to grant to PWG the right to use or reference content within - should this be created by the PWG or by the org that is granting the license?
- OPEN
ACTION: 10/08/18 - SC to review PWG Officer Job Descriptions and provide feedback
- IN PROGRESS
- Smith sent a new draft
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/pwg-staff-and-their-responsibilities-2018-07-16.docx
- Smith to read Bill's response email on PWG Officer Job Descriptions and post another draft
- Related to "Future of PWG" topic
ACTION: 12/03/18 - Alan to pursue liaison / engagement with ISO JTC1 SC28 and do what is needed in IDS WG meetings
- IN PROGRESS
- Alan has a dialogue w/ Masahiro-san of ISO JTC1 SC28
- Alan held an IDS meeting on 01/24/19
ACTION: 12/17/18 - Alan to contact Paul Jeran (HP) about a PWG liaison with the US TAG of SC 28 (administered by INCITIS) and communicate that we are intending to pursue a liaison with other ISO JTC1 SCs in a similar fashion
- OPEN
ACTION: 02/25/19 - Paul to reach out to MT Connect on behalf of PWG
- OPEN
ACTION: 05/20/19 - Ira / Alan to add "Other interesting reflectors and groups" section to the IDS WG page on the PWG website
- OPEN
ACTION: 05/20/19 - Paul / Mike to maybe do some dev work on embedding 3MF job tickets in about a month or so
- OPEN
ACTION: 06/17/19 - Smith to ask Anne to draft a PR for PWG Safe G-Code
- CLOSED
ACTION: 06/17/19 - Smith to create the PWG IPP Status 2019 deck (for Mopria and others)
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 06/17/19 - Smith to check in with Jeremy Reitz about Mopria status for 2019 and ask whether they want an PWG IPP 2019 Update for presentation at a Mopria F2F
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 07/01/19 - Smith to talk to Mike about updating the 3D page so that it lists the growing list of 3D related PWG documents
- OPEN
ACTION: 07/15/19 - Smith to ask Jessica to see if she or her cohorts can take on straightening out the INCITS liaison issue?
- CLOSED
ACTION: 07/15/19 - Smith to look for alternate web hosting providers and / or discuss other solutions with Mike Sweet
- ONGOING
ACTION: 07/29/19 - Smith to check what is going on with PWG/INCITS liaison w/ Jessica and get things moving
- CLOSED
ACTION: 07/29/19 - Paul to email PWG SC about establishing a liaison between PWG and 3D PDF Consortium - purpose is resolving the delta / filling in the gaps between PWG semantics and ASME Y.1447 semantics so that everything works well in 3D PDF
- OPEN
ACTION: 07/29/19 - Ira to produce an updated draft of pwg-namespace-policy for review at a future SC meeting
- OPEN
ACTION: 08/12/19 - Smith to follow up with Jessica (IEEE-ISTO) about her call with INCITS about PWG liaison
- CLOSED
ACTION: 08/28/19 - Smith/Ira to start a new thread on Process 4.0 framework
- OPEN
ACTION: 09/09/13 - Smith to move dates for November 2019 F2F to 20-21 November 2019
- CLOSED
ACTION: 09/09/19 - Smith to announce the PWG August F2F summary
- CLOSED
ACTION: 09/09/19 - Smith/Ira to keep nudging forward IPP Everywhere™ plugfest
- OPEN
ACTION: 09/09/19 - Smith to work with Jessica to set up that call of PWG/ISTO/INCITS to try to make progress on liaison agreement
- CLOSED
ACTION: 09/09/19 - Paul to post query to ipp@pwg.org reflector on how to appropriately convey "print quality" attributes that may be relating to process, and how they should be represented via IPP (keeping in mind process vs. intent)
- OPEN
ACTION: 09/09/19 - Paul to look into what is needed to attend Drupa 2020
- OPEN
ACTION: 09/09/19 - Paul to ask AMSC if they will be attending Drupa 2020 - AMSC attends to make sure that standards are not being created that are unduly focused on particular environments, locales, etc.
- OPEN
ACTION: 09/09/19 - Smith to update IPP registration policy to include the durable PDF links and review with SC (does NOT require an update to Process 3.0 / Process 4.0)
- ONGOING