From pwg-archive Fri Aug 1 10:13:11 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA18277 for pwg-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 10:13:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970801070650.00738f90@pop3.fapo.com> X-Sender: lstein@pop3.fapo.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 07:13:17 -0700 To: don@lexmark.com, pwg@pwg.org, ipp@pwg.org, p1394@pwg.org, jmp@pwg.org From: Larry Stein Subject: PWG> Re: P1394> October Meeting in Denver Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: bulk Status: RO That week is bad for me. We're doing a 2 day 1284 class in Amsterdam that week. Thanks, Larry At 07:18 AM 8/1/97 -0400, don@lexmark.com wrote: > >I have had a request that we move the Denver meeting out one week >to Novemebr 3-7 to avoid a conflict with a major UNIX show. Please >respond to this note only if you have a problem with moving the >meeting. > >Additionally, as a part of reviewing the proposed dates and locations >for the 1998 meeting, please compare my proposal against major >shows and other events that could be a problem. > >Thanks! > >Don > >********************************************** >* Don Wright don@lexmark.com * >* Manager, Strategic Alliances and Standards * >* Lexmark International * >* 740 New Circle Rd * >* Lexington, Ky 40550 * >* 606-232-4808 (phone) 606-232-6740 (fax) * >********************************************** > > > ***************************************************************************** Larry A. Stein Phone: (619)292-2740 Warp Nine Engineering Fax: (619)292-8020 Web: http://www.fapo.com ***************************************************************************** From pwg-archive Fri Aug 1 12:08:24 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA20659 for pwg-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 12:08:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708011607.JAA29614@bulletin> To: don@lexmark.com cc: pwg@pwg.org, ipp@pwg.org, p1394@pwg.org, jmp@pwg.org Subject: Re: PWG> October Meeting in Denver In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 01 Aug 1997 07:18:22 EDT." <199708011118.AA01752@interlock2.lexmark.com> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 09:07:43 PDT From: "Steve Zilles" Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: bulk Status: RO I have a major problem because I will be on vacation that week. Steve Z From pwg-archive Mon Aug 4 14:22:09 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA06844 for pwg-outgoing; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 14:22:06 -0400 (EDT) From: don@lexmark.com Message-Id: <199708041821.AA18609@interlock2.lexmark.com> X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: pwg@pwg.org, ipp@pwg.org, p1394@pwg.org, jmp@pwg.org Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:56:49 -0400 Subject: PWG> October Meeting in Denver Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=J1fyLlwlk4CJ4rQRXvyabplBxpHKqyhMRM19KKeYMXpKCZZoojqHNsny" Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: bulk Status: RO --0__=J1fyLlwlk4CJ4rQRXvyabplBxpHKqyhMRM19KKeYMXpKCZZoojqHNsny Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OK, I had 2 no's on moving the meeting out a week. What about moving it in one week to October 20-24? Only those that can make those dates should reply. Remember 1394 Printing on Monday/Tuesday, IPP on Wednesday/Thursday and JMP, SENSE, etc. on Friday. Thanks! Don ********************************************** * Don Wright don@lexmark.com * * Manager, Strategic Alliances and Standards * * Lexmark International * * 740 New Circle Rd * * Lexington, Ky 40550 * * 606-232-4808 (phone) 606-232-6740 (fax) * ********************************************** ---------------------- Forwarded by Don Wright on 08/04/97 01:54 PM --------------------------- Don Wright Note sent on 08/01/97 07:18 AM (Embedded image moved to file: PIC31204.PCX) Manager, Strategic Alliances and Standards Lexmark International 606-232-4808 606-232-6740 (fax) don@lexmark.com To: pwg@pwg.org, ipp@pwg.org, p1394@pwg.org, jmp@pwg.org cc: Subject: October Meeting in Denver I have had a request that we move the Denver meeting out one week to Novemebr 3-7 to avoid a conflict with a major UNIX show. Please respond to this note only if you have a problem with moving the meeting. Additionally, as a part of reviewing the proposed dates and locations for the 1998 meeting, please compare my proposal against major shows and other events that could be a problem. Thanks! 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pwg-archive Mon Aug 4 15:08:05 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA08901 for pwg-outgoing; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 15:08:04 -0400 (EDT) From: don@lexmark.com Message-Id: <199708041907.AA20512@interlock2.lexmark.com> X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: pwg@pwg.org, ipp@pwg.org, p1394@pwg.org, jmp@pwg.org Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 14:55:31 -0400 Subject: Re: PWG> October Meeting in Denver Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=eY3KHUZACQ5Ihwv8rrzoFcQLCZDggCv0MIQzBsq1E3josWVQzRUI92F5" Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: bulk Status: RO --0__=eY3KHUZACQ5Ihwv8rrzoFcQLCZDggCv0MIQzBsq1E3josWVQzRUI92F5 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Opps -- only those who CAN NOT make October 20-24 should reply. Don ********************************************** * Don Wright don@lexmark.com * * Manager, Strategic Alliances and Standards * * Lexmark International * * 740 New Circle Rd * * Lexington, Ky 40550 * * 606-232-4808 (phone) 606-232-6740 (fax) * ********************************************** Don_Wright.LEXMARK@lexmta01.notes.lexmark.com 08/04/97 01:56 PM To: pwg%pwg.org@interlock.lexmark.com, ipp%pwg.org@interlock.lexmark.com, p1394%pwg.org@interlock.lexmark.com, jmp%pwg.org@interlock.lexmark.com cc: (bcc: Don Wright) Subject: PWG> October Meeting in Denver OK, I had 2 no's on moving the meeting out a week. What about moving it in one week to October 20-24? Only those that can make those dates should reply. Remember 1394 Printing on Monday/Tuesday, IPP on Wednesday/Thursday and JMP, SENSE, etc. on Friday. Thanks! Don ********************************************** * Don Wright don@lexmark.com * * Manager, Strategic Alliances and Standards * * Lexmark International * * 740 New Circle Rd * * Lexington, Ky 40550 * * 606-232-4808 (phone) 606-232-6740 (fax) * ********************************************** ---------------------- Forwarded by Don Wright on 08/04/97 01:54 PM --------------------------- Don Wright Note sent on 08/01/97 07:18 AM (Embedded image moved to file: PIC31204.PCX) Manager, Strategic Alliances and Standards Lexmark International 606-232-4808 606-232-6740 (fax) don@lexmark.com To: pwg@pwg.org, ipp@pwg.org, p1394@pwg.org, jmp@pwg.org cc: Subject: October Meeting in Denver I have had a request that we move the Denver meeting out one week to Novemebr 3-7 to avoid a conflict with a major UNIX show. Please respond to this note only if you have a problem with moving the meeting. Additionally, as a part of reviewing the proposed dates and locations for the 1998 meeting, please compare my proposal against major shows and other events that could be a problem. Thanks! 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pwg-archive Tue Aug 5 14:32:34 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA15613 for pwg-outgoing; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 14:32:32 -0400 (EDT) From: don@lexmark.com Message-Id: <199708051832.AA29656@interlock2.lexmark.com> X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: pwg@pwg.org, ipp@pwg.org, jmp@pwg.org, P1394@pwg.org Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 14:27:53 -0400 Subject: PWG> October Meeting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: bulk Status: RO Well, I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. I have three who cannot make it the week of Nov 3rd, two that can't make it the announced week of October 27th and two that can't make it the week of October 20th. Unless someone has a solution to this problem, I can't see any justification to move the meeting. 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Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: bulk Status: RO >Return-Path: >Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 06:12:37 PDT >From: Larry Masinter >Organization: Xerox PARC >To: Tom Hastings >Subject: Re: IPP> Thursday evening: Discussion/tutorial on char sets and localizations? >References: <9708050118.AA13368@zazen.cp10.es.xerox.com> > >I suggest adding: > >draft-avelstrand-charset-policy-00.txt > IETF Policy on Character Sets and Language > > >Larry > > From pwg-archive Mon Aug 11 03:03:34 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA28343 for pwg-outgoing; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 03:03:32 -0400 (EDT) From: don@lexmark.com Message-Id: <199708110703.AA11063@interlock2.lexmark.com> X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: pwg@pwg.org, ipp@pwg.org, p1394@pwg.org, jmp@pwg.org Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 02:59:40 -0400 Subject: PWG> Atlanta Ping Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: bulk Status: RO The time has come to ping me to let me know what meetings you will be attending in Atlanta. 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Main Street Brewster, NY 10509 Ph: 914-278-4933 Fx: 914-278-4507 E-mail: owlseye@owlsnest.com From pwg-archive Wed Aug 20 14:53:23 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA17869 for pwg-outgoing; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 14:53:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 14:53:12 -0400 (EDT) From: JK Martin Message-Id: <199708201853.OAA20427@uscore.underscore.com> To: pwg@pwg.org Subject: PWG> The Printer Working Group as its own standards body X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: bulk Status: RO The situation with the IETF status of the Job Monitoring MIB is indeed unfortunate. I would have preferred to have IETF sanctioning of the Job MIB effort these past couple of years, particularly since we acted according to the IETF rules as a working group. Now some folks are starting to wonder about the relationship between the PWG and the IETF for standards development and publication: > Given where we are, however, does it seem at all feasible that we could be > considered "chartered" and, if not, what do we do now? My interpretation > of the IESG comments is that the authors should submit an informational > RFC describing the Job MIB and the PWG should maintain the standard. This > would be the first "PWG standard". Is the PWG ready for this? > > Harry Lewis - IBM Printing Systems > I also am disappointed that the IETF has announced the strong stand > against accepting the Job MIB as a Proposed Standard. The support > for this standard by printer vendors has indicated a real need for > this effort to progress. I believe that a Proposed Standard would > encourage the development of more applications that support the MIB > than if the MIB was an Informational RFC. I would like to obtain a > straw vote from the group on this topic. > > Ron Bergman > Dataproducts Corp. Perhaps this situation is the kind of "pain" we in the printer industry need to experience in order to determine whether printer-related standards should be formally published by the PWG, rather than through another, existing standards body (such as the IETF, ISO, etc). During the current (raging) IPP thread regarding MIME-vs-enum values for Interpreter identification, Bill Wagner made this comment: > However, another point implicit in the recommendation is that an > industry might know more about the needs of their product and their > customers than the IETF/IESG. There may be some merit in this. > > Bill Wagner, Osicom/DPI I think Bill is right on track here...and I'll bet he's not alone in this thought. Those of you who, like myself, have been with the PWG from its very inception recall the various discussions in which I offered the notion that the PWG should more formally organize itself and produce standards for our industry under our own recognizance. The primary opposition to this notion has been along the lines of: 1. Concern for the long-term existence of the PWG itself, particularly for such processes as Type 2 Enumerations, document repository, etc. 2. Concern that only standards from such well-established groups as the IETF, ISO, etc., would be considered "respectable"--and therefore widely supported--in the industry. Now, after nearly fours years in existence (the PWG "birthday" could be argued as September 1993 with the first DMTF-based meeting for the Printer MIF), it should be obvious to most folks that the PWG is going to be around for a very, very long time given the continued rapid pace of printer- and printing-related network technology development. I doubt we would have a problem in finding suitable long-term document repository hosts; in fact, Underscore (the current host of all PWG public lists and document repositories) is more than willing to continue that role for the forseeable future. And, should Underscore no longer be able to provide those services, it is highly likely that more than one other PWG participating company would be willing to pick up those services. Regarding the "respectability" of a standard, the marketplace is the sole judge for whether a standard is "real" or not. Some people seem to forget that neither HP PCL nor Adobe PostScript is a sanctioned standard...yet those standards pervade our industry to the point of becoming veritable household terms. (Congrats to HP and Adobe. ;-) What is important now, I believe, is the public position stated by our IETF Area Directors that they have no problem in accepting "Informational" RFC's from the PWG. For those who might be concerned that an Informational RFC is not respectable, consider the situation with RFC 1179 (LPR/LPD)--it is only an Informational RFC, yet is considered a full-fledged "standard" by almost everyone. And, more importantly, almost every vendor uses RFC 1179 as the basis for their support for LPR/LPD (with suitable hacks and warts, of course.) Therefore, I would propose that the PWG start using the IETF-based Informational RFC mechanism for publishing standards in the future, at least until we start publishing standards under the PWG banner itself. The PWG has always used the same basic philosophy for participation as the IETF--namely, free membership open to anyone. As long as this continues (and there's no reason why it shouldn't), Informational RFC's should be perfectly acceptable to help the printer industry improve the state of standardization in the industry. Comments? ...jay ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- JK Martin | Email: jkm@underscore.com -- -- Underscore, Inc. | Voice: (603) 889-7000 -- -- 41C Sagamore Park Road | Fax: (603) 889-2699 -- -- Hudson, NH 03051-4915 | Web: http://www.underscore.com -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pwg-archive Thu Aug 21 05:21:03 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA22126 for pwg-outgoing; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 05:21:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 From: Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no To: JK Martin cc: pwg@pwg.org Subject: Re: PWG> The Printer Working Group as its own standards body In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 20 Aug 1997 14:53:12 EDT." <199708201853.OAA20427@uscore.underscore.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:02:06 +0200 Message-ID: <15166.872150526@dale.uninett.no> Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: bulk Status: RO Jay, good points. The relationship between the IETF and non-IETF groups has always been worrisome; in some cases, we have seen things that looked as if someone outside the IETF wanted to use the IETF as a tool to get the "community" to endorse a position that couldn't be sold on its own merits, AND place the IETF in a position where it couldn't insist on obvious weaknesses in the protcol being repaired. The discussions around Sun RPC and NFS focused around this issue; it is also one of the things currently making the S/MIME debate so strident. In other cases, the IETF community knows that it does not add significant value to the process of getting a standard done; the IETF is aggressively uninterested in specifying the number of pins on serial plugs or the precedence of operators in the C language, to name two instances, although both efforts are obviously important to our user community. Recent instances are our non-involvement in the SET payment protocol and our closing down of work on HTML. (This is of course a fluid point, since the set of people in the IETF community, and therefore its expertise, changes over time - after all, the IPP *is* part of the IETF community.) The standards process is the process the IETF has that places a stamp of approval on specifications. Obviously, we have to be careful what we use it for. The IETF should, IMHO, NOT standardize things in the following cases: - The proposal is not going to be used in or around the Internet - The proposal cannot be evaluated by IETF experts for lack of competence - The proposal cannot be modified if the IETF community thinks that it needs modification - The proposal does not fit with IETF policy The last one is a flexible point again; some examples include requiring use of patented or encumbered technology when freely available alternatives exist, mandating use of cleartext passwords, standardizing very complex protocols when simpler solutions solve most of the problem. It's a judgment call. Since the bandwidth of those who have to do the judging (the IESG) is limited, and since we know we're not infallible, we don't want this process to limit publication of documents, even though we don't necessarily agree with them. Therefore, RFC publication, which has a reputation as a stable reference, is available for non-IETF documents in "informational" form. We sometimes ask for review of informationals, but only attempt to block publication of them when we regard the content as misleading (such as labelling itself "Internet Standard") or that publication would lead to confusion in the community (such as having a fight about 2 approaches in a WG, and the "loser" being published before the "standard"). I've scheduled the Job MIB on my list of things to look at; let's hope things get sorted out correctly! Regards, Harald T. Alvestrand From pwg-archive Fri Aug 22 10:53:12 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA25964 for pwg-outgoing; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 10:53:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 08:52:36 -0600 From: Scott Isaacson To: pwg@pwg.org, jkm@underscore.com Subject: Re: PWG> The Printer Working Group as its own standards body Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: bulk Status: RO I would like to publicly agree with Jay's comments below: ************************************************************ Scott A. Isaacson Print Services Consulting Engineer Novell Inc., 122 E 1700 S, Provo, UT 84606 V: (801) 861-7366, (800) 453-1267 x17366 F: (801) 861-4025, E: scott_isaacson@novell.com W: http://www.novell.com ************************************************************ >>> JK Martin 08/20 12:53 PM >>> > Regarding the "respectability" of a standard, the marketplace is the > sole judge for whether a standard is "real" or not. Some people seem > to forget that neither HP PCL nor Adobe PostScript is a sanctioned > standard...yet those standards pervade our industry to the point of > becoming veritable household terms. (Congrats to HP and Adobe. ;-) No standard with win or loose just becuase it has the stamp of some organization or not. It must stand on its own. It must be viable, useful, timely, simple, etc. > Therefore, I would propose that the PWG start using the IETF-based > Informational RFC mechanism for publishing standards in the future, > at least until we start publishing standards under the PWG banner itself. Yes, use Informational RFCs. They are bound to have a wider audience than the PWG ftp server posted docs, and if they described "standards" that are simple, useful, viable, etc, they will be widely accepted and endorsed. Scott From pwg-archive Tue Aug 26 10:32:36 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA09816 for pwg-outgoing; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 10:32:33 -0400 (EDT) From: don@lexmark.com Message-Id: <199708261431.AA16627@interlock2.lexmark.com> X-Lotus-Fromdomain: LEXMARK@LEXMTA To: ipp@pwg.org, P1394@pwg.org, JMP@pwg.org, pwg@pwg.org Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 10:31:44 -0400 Subject: PWG> Last Reminder: September Meeting in Atlanta Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=fk5msamZns7sqhSdMCxTr9IINfgXx08DtHk3ZjBJwM0P2lhopQ8jZeX5" Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: bulk Status: RO --0__=fk5msamZns7sqhSdMCxTr9IINfgXx08DtHk3ZjBJwM0P2lhopQ8jZeX5 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Don't forget to make your reservations for the Atlanta meeting. The deadline is this Friday - 8/29. While you are at it --- drop me a ping if you haven't already! Don ********************************************** * Don Wright don@lexmark.com * * Manager, Strategic Alliances and Standards * * Lexmark International * * 740 New Circle Rd * * Lexington, Ky 40550 * * 606-232-4808 (phone) 606-232-6740 (fax) * ********************************************** ---------------------- Forwarded by Don Wright on 08/26/97 10:31 AM --------------------------- Don Wright Note sent on 07/25/97 03:58 PM (Embedded image moved to file: PIC32704.PCX) Manager, Strategic Alliances and Standards Lexmark International 606-232-4808 606-232-6740 (fax) don@lexmark.com To: IPP, P1394, JMP, pwg@pwg.org cc: Subject: September Meeting in Atlanta I have finalized the September Meeting in Atlanta. 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