From pwg-archive Thu Jan 2 12:37:08 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA20538 for pwg-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 12:37:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32CBF083.7E@sharplabs.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 09:29:39 -0800 From: Randy Turner Reply-To: rturner@sharplabs.com Organization: Sharp Labs of America X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pwg@pwg.org, p1284.3@lexmark.com Subject: PWG> Albequerque Meeting Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class Unfortunately, I will be unable to attend any meetings in New Mexico (IEEE, PWG). I will, however, be at the February meeting. Sorry for the last minute notice. Please forward minutes and any Printer MIB related issues and/or questions that come up. Thanks Randy -- Randy Turner Network Architect Sharp Laboratories of America rturner@sharplabs.com From pwg-archive Thu Jan 2 18:18:58 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA22075 for pwg-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 18:18:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Jan 97 18:19 EST From: jkm@underscore.com (JK Martin) To: pwg@pwg.org Subject: PWG> Attendance at the Albuquerque meeting (or lack thereof) Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class With the New Year comes new surprises. It turns out that, like Randy, I will be unable to attend the Albuquerque meetings. ...jay ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- JK Martin | Email: jkm@underscore.com -- -- Underscore, Inc. | Voice: (603) 889-7000 -- -- 41C Sagamore Park Road | Fax: (603) 889-2699 -- -- Hudson, NH 03015-4915 | Web: http://www.underscore.com -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pwg-archive Sat Jan 4 12:54:13 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA00492 for pwg-outgoing; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 12:54:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 10:54:52 -0800 Message-Id: <199701041854.KAA22016@gate.dpc.com> From: rbergma@dpc.com To: GATE"pwg@pwg.org"@gate.dpc.com Subject: PWG> Agenda for JMP Meeting Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class JMP Agenda for January 8, 1997 1. Review of IETF Charter - San Jose IETF meeting. (15 min.) 2. Review of issues from the IETF JMP presentation. (1 hr) - Quantify the "Busy" requirement. - How to associate the job with the printer (multiple printers? - How/when is the Job information removed from the Completed group? - Confusion about "requested" vs "used" in the Resources group. - Refine criteria as to what belongs in what group and justify. - Estimated time to complete the print job has been an intractable problem in other working groups. - Measure jobs in kilobytes to avoid the 64 bit counter problem. - Define bindings to the Printer MIB. - Jeff Case volunteered to find models for directed trappings. - Clarification that there are only 36 objects in the whole MIB. 3. Presentation by Bob Pentecost on the HP Job Monitoring MIB. (1 hr) 4. Review of "New JMP Job Identification Objects" (0.5 hrs) From 10-DEC-1996 email from Ron Bergman - New objects jmJobIdName, jmJobIdNumber - Remove objects jmClientId, jmJobUpstreamId, jmJobCurrentId, and jmJobDownstreamId 5. Review of "Recommended Changes to JMP Objects" (1 hr) From 2-JAN-1997 email from Ron Bergman - Add an object for correlation with hrDeviceIndex - Replace jmCompletedIndex with jmJobIndex - Remove jmSourceChannelInformation 6. Project plans (0.5 hrs) - Draft MIB schedule. - JMP object mapping to job submission protocols. - Other items that should be included in the MIB document. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Bergman Dataproducts Corp rbergma@dpc.com From pwg-archive Mon Jan 6 07:31:17 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA05519 for pwg-outgoing; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 07:31:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9701061232.AA02431@zazen> X-Sender: hastings@zazen X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 04:29:35 PST To: pwg@pwg.org, jmp@pwg.org From: Tom Hastings Subject: PWG> Job Monitoring MIB/MIF spec and list, Version 0.5 posted Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class Sorry for the last minute distribution, but I was on vacation for the last two weeks. I've updated and posted version 0.5 of the complete Job Monitoring MIB spec (jmp-spec.*) and version 0.5 of the list of objects by group (jmp-list.*) with the agreements reached at the November JMP meeting in New Orleans. See the minutes (/pub/pwg/minutes/jm961108.doc) for the list of those agreements. Version 0.4 of the jmp-list.* was posted shortly after the November meeting. Version 0.5 has a few changes suggested at the IETF meeting (see below). I've moved all of the ISO DPA specification text to Appendix A as agreed. Appendix B has the comparison with each of the job submission protocols, but probably needs some updating, since we've added some objects to the MIB. The actual specifications of each object needs line-by-line review. We did not have time for such review at the 11/08/96 meeting as indicated in the minutes. Rather we spent the time organizing the objects into groups and tables. We need to do the line-by-line review of the object specifications. There are 15 issues listed in jmp-spec.*. See the end of the table of contents for the list of issues and page numbers. We should process the issues as well at the meeting this week. I forgot to include the issue of directed traps that Jeff Case suggested that we invent on our own, following the example of the RMON MIB. I've posted the files in: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/snmpmib/jobs-mib/ -rw-r--r-- 1 pwg pwg 42496 Jan 6 11:48 jmp-list.doc -rw-r--r-- 1 pwg pwg 62657 Jan 6 11:49 jmp-list.pdb -rw-r--r-- 1 pwg pwg 55873 Jan 6 11:49 jmp-list.pdf -rw-r--r-- 1 pwg pwg 63670 Jan 6 11:49 jmp-list.pdr -rw-r--r-- 1 pwg pwg 288256 Jan 6 11:49 jmp-spec.doc -rw-r--r-- 1 pwg pwg 392614 Jan 6 11:50 jmp-spec.pdb -rw-r--r-- 1 pwg pwg 332997 Jan 6 11:51 jmp-spec.pdf -rw-r--r-- 1 pwg pwg 397616 Jan 6 11:51 jmp-spec.pdr The .pdf has no revision marks, .pdr has red revision marks and the .pdb has black revision marks. All have line numbers, so use the .pdb or .pdr files, rather than printing from WORD using the .doc file so that we all have the same line numbers. I'll bring 20 copies of the spec and list files with red revision marks (.pdr) The revision marks don't make it too difficult to read, so lets use the .pdr or .pdb versions. In addition to the agreements from the New Orleans meeting, I've made three changes that were suggested at the IETF meeting where I presented all the objects. So these changes are changes since version 0.4 that I posted after the 11/08/96 meeting: 1. I combined jmQueuing and jmQueuingAlgorithm into a single jmGeneralQueuingAlgorithm enum that already includes the "none(3)" value, so we don't need the jmQueuing Boolean. 2. I added the jmDeviceIndex so that a management application can determine the hrDeviceIndex for the associated Printer MIB instance that this job was submitted to or is to be printed on without having to scan the entire jmResourcesTable thereby resolving ISSUE 04. 3. I removed the jmJobSourceChannelInformation, since it can now be obtained easily from the Printer MIB using the jmDeviceIndex object. 4. In reviewing the minutes of the 11/08/96 meeting in New Orleans, I see that I also failed to add the table of MIB instances (see point number 1 in the minutes under Scott's proposal). So the totals are the same: 36 mandatory objects and 7 conditionally mandatory objects 5. The suggestion made at the IETF meeting to count jobs in K, instead of octets, would allow us to combine two 32-bit integer object/attributes into a single object/attribute. I have added this idea as an issue for the group to decide. See jmp-spec.doc. See you in New Mexico. Tom P.S. Sorry to send this to both the JMP and PWG lists, but the JMP list isn't very heavily subscribed yet. I didn't subscribe until a few minutes ago myself. I suspect that after this week, we can avoid duplicate mailings. From pwg-archive Tue Jan 7 14:16:20 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA20897 for pwg-outgoing; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:16:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701071916.OAA20884@lists.underscore.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 97 12:04:44 MST From: "Harry Lewis " To: ipp@pwg.org, pwg@pwg.org Subject: PWG> IPP> Current IPP Scenarios Subgroup Participants List Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class >Following is the current list of names and email addresses for all persons >participating in the "Scenarios" subgroup of the IPP project: > > JK Martin jkm@underscore.com > Carl-Uno Manros manros@cp10.es.xerox.com, manros@mindspring.com > Bill Wagner wwagner@digprod.com > Don Wright don@lexmark.com > Keith Carter kcarter@vnet.ibm.com > Peter Zehler peter_zehler@wb.xerox.com > Hiroyuki Sato hsato@cse.canon.co.jp > >Note that Hiroyuki Sato (Canon) is new to this list. > >Currently there is no distribution list setup for this subgroup, so >you'll have to use the email addresses as is for all subgroup-only >messaging. > > ...jay I don't have a problem with formation of IPP subgroups, but I don't know why their work can't be reflected via ipp@pwg.org like any other topic under discussion there? Harry Lewis - IBM Printing Systems From pwg-archive Tue Jan 7 14:41:11 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA21496 for pwg-outgoing; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:41:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <32D2A708.7502@dazel.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 13:42:00 -0600 From: Jim Walker Reply-To: walker@dazel.com Organization: DAZEL Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pwg@pwg.org Subject: PWG> Schedule for PWG Meetings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class Given Jay's absence, has there been a change in the PWG meeting schedule? I am especially interested in the business for tomorrow, Wednesday. -- Jim Walker System Architect/DAZEL Wizard DAZEL Corporation, Austin, TX From pwg-archive Tue Jan 7 15:08:03 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA22129 for pwg-outgoing; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 15:08:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Jan 97 15:08 EST From: jkm@underscore.com (JK Martin) To: walker@dazel.com Subject: Re: PWG> Schedule for PWG Meetings Cc: pwg@pwg.org Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class > Given Jay's absence, has there been a change in the PWG meeting schedule? > I am especially interested in the business for tomorrow, Wednesday. I seriously doubt there will be even the slightest hiccup due to my absence, Jim. But thanks for thinking of me anyway! ;-) Seriously, the biggest impact will be that some time on the agenda is now free, since the SENSE presentation will not be given. Given the recent rabid (but necessary!) discussions on the IPP list, I'm hoping the IPP project can use the time scheduled for the SENSE presentation. All: incidentally, I have (once again) asked Harry Lewis to perform my role as PWG Secretary at the Albuquerque meeting; however, as of this writing, I have not yet heard from Harry. (He might be on his way to the meeting?) In any event, if Harry attends the meeting (and is willing to be the Secretary), then would someone please mention this to Harry when he arrives? If, on the other hand, Harry does not attend the meeting, would someone mind taking the minutes for (just) the general PWG portion of the agenda, which is usually just the first couple of hours of the first meeting day? Thanks in advance! ...jay From pwg-archive Tue Jan 7 15:34:08 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA22777 for pwg-outgoing; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 15:34:06 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:16:32 -0500 Message-Id: <0000468A.1337@digprod.com> From: bwagner@digprod.com (Bill Wagner) Subject: Re: PWG> IPP> Current IPP Scenarios Subgroup Participants Li To: ipp@pwg.org, pwg@pwg.org, "Harry Lewis " Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class Harry, Although I am inclined to agree, between the PWG and the IETF-FAX lists, many of us have had a deluge of mail while individuals work out particular threads. Although this can be handled by selective reading, there might be an advantage in a subgroup thrashing something out before presenting it to the entire list. Bill W. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: PWG> IPP> Current IPP Scenarios Subgroup Participants List Author: "Harry Lewis " at Internet Date: 1/7/97 12:04 PM >Following is the current list of names and email addresses for all persons >participating in the "Scenarios" subgroup of the IPP project: > > JK Martin jkm@underscore.com > Carl-Uno Manros manros@cp10.es.xerox.com, manros@mindspring.com > Bill Wagner wwagner@digprod.com > Don Wright don@lexmark.com > Keith Carter kcarter@vnet.ibm.com > Peter Zehler peter_zehler@wb.xerox.com > Hiroyuki Sato hsato@cse.canon.co.jp > >Note that Hiroyuki Sato (Canon) is new to this list. > >Currently there is no distribution list setup for this subgroup, so >you'll have to use the email addresses as is for all subgroup-only >messaging. > > ...jay I don't have a problem with formation of IPP subgroups, but I don't know why their work can't be reflected via ipp@pwg.org like any other topic under discussion there? Harry Lewis - IBM Printing Systems From pwg-archive Tue Jan 7 16:43:47 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA25054 for pwg-outgoing; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:43:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 13:43:04 -0800 From: robert.herriot@Eng.Sun.COM (Robert Herriot) Message-Id: <199701072143.NAA03465@woden.eng.sun.com> To: pwg@pwg.org Subject: Re: PWG> Schedule for PWG Meetings X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class > > Seriously, the biggest impact will be that some time on the agenda > is now free, since the SENSE presentation will not be given. Given > the recent rabid (but necessary!) discussions on the IPP list, I'm > hoping the IPP project can use the time scheduled for the SENSE > presentation. > > ...jay > I hope that IPP will not start in the vacant slot for SENSE on Wednesday. I cannot arrive until Thursday when the IPP is scheduled to start. Bob Herriot From pwg-archive Thu Jan 9 13:42:58 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA01722 for pwg-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:42:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701091843.AA22656@interlock.lexmark.com> To: "pwg%pwg.org" From: Lloyd Young Date: 9 Jan 97 13:39:52 EST Subject: PWG> Sending e-mail to two mailing lists Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class I have not seen this e-mail reflected back to me therefore I wanted to send it out again. Apologies if you get this twice. ---------- Original note -------------- To: pwg%pwg.com @ interlock.lexmark.com @ smtp cc: From: Lloyd Young Date: 01/09/97 12:11:36 AM Subject: Sending e-mail to two mailing lists A question came up today in the PWG meeting regarding how long we should continue to send e-mail to the PWG mailing list as well as JMP or PMP mailing list just to make sure that everyone sees the e-mail. A decision was made that this Friday 1/10 was the last day that this would need to be done. By this Friday, everyone who wanted to subscribe to one of the new mailing list should have had plenty of time. Regards, Lloyd Young Phone: (606) 232-5150 Lexmark International Inc. Fax: (606) 232-6740 740 New Circle Road NW internet: lpyoung@lexmark.com Lexington, KY 40511 From pwg-archive Fri Jan 10 16:24:14 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA03743 for pwg-outgoing; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:24:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32D6B3BB.187F@sharplabs.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:25:15 -0800 From: Randy Turner Organization: Sharp Labs of America X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pwg@pwg.org, p1284_3@lexmark.com Subject: PWG> February Meeting Details Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class Has anyone come up with details regarding when/where the February meeting for PWG/IEEE will take place? Thanks Randy From pwg-archive Fri Jan 10 17:16:22 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA04052 for pwg-outgoing; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 17:16:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: From: Babak Jahromi To: "'pwg@pwg.org'" , "'p1284_3@lexmark.com'" , "'Randy Turner'" Subject: RE: PWG> February Meeting Details Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:17:57 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 18 TEXT Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class I certainly don't. Could someone please send that out? I am planning to attend. >---------- >From: Randy Turner[SMTP:rturner@sharplabs.com] >Sent: Friday, January 10, 1997 1:25 PM >To: pwg@pwg.org; p1284_3@lexmark.com >Subject: PWG> February Meeting Details > >Has anyone come up with details regarding when/where the >February meeting for PWG/IEEE will take place? > >Thanks > > >Randy > From pwg-archive Fri Jan 10 17:50:31 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA04366 for pwg-outgoing; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 17:50:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32D6C7DC.42877E5C@underscore.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 17:51:08 -0500 From: Jeff Schnitzer Organization: Underscore, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3_U1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pwg@pwg.org CC: szilles@adobe.com, jkm Subject: PWG> Location of February PWG meeting Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class The next PWG meeting will be held at Adobe's San Jose Headquarters in the same room as the December Firewire meeting)... with thanks to Steve Zilles. When: Feb 6-7, 1997, 8:00AM until ? Where: Adobe Headquarters 345 Park Avenue Corner of Park and Almaden San Jose, California Albertus Conference Room, 2nd floor A map is located at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/misc/AdobeMap.pdf Cost: $0 The nearest hotels are: The Hilton on Almaden and San Carlos The Holiday Inn at 282 Almaden The Fairmont, 170 S, Market The Hyatt St. Claire, 302 S. Market The Hotel De Anza, 233 W. Santa Clara -- /Jeff --------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey D. Schnitzer | Email: jds@underscore.com Underscore, Inc. | Voice: (603) 889-7000 41-C Sagamore Park Rd | Fax: (603) 889-2699 Hudson, NH 03051-4915 | Web: http://www.underscore.com --------------------------------------------------------------- From pwg-archive Tue Jan 14 16:30:55 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA11284 for pwg-outgoing; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:30:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701142130.QAA11279@lists.underscore.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 97 14:09:57 MST From: "Harry Lewis " To: pwg@pwg.org Subject: PWG> April Meetings Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class I have no objection to moving the April meeting to Mephis week of 4/7. Harry Lewis From pwg-archive Tue Jan 14 17:07:12 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA11803 for pwg-outgoing; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:07:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701142207.RAA11796@lists.underscore.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 97 14:47:58 MST From: "Harry Lewis " To: pwg@pwg.org Subject: PWG> Minutes etc... Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class In trying to post the January minutes, I ran into an FTP problem here, that in trying to solve, I ended up loosing complete internet access (I think) for 24 hrs. I'm not sure this note will get out or that I can receive mail. At best, I can hope to post the minutes tomorrow. Harry Lewis. From pwg-archive Tue Jan 14 17:46:12 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA12092 for pwg-outgoing; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:46:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <01BC0231.F2C0B5A0@hpb15767.boi.hp.com> From: Bob Pentecost To: "pwg@pwg.org" Subject: RE: PWG> April Meetings Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:45:19 -0700 Encoding: 27 TEXT Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class Any April date is okay with me. My main concern is how much is being crammed into the allocated time. For instance, using some round numbers... General - .5 day IPP - 1 day 1394 - .5 day PMP - .5 or 1 day JMP - .5 or 1 day Sense - .5 day And then add in some IETF time if that is occurring.... It looks like there might be some overlapping meetings at the PWG. Bob Pentecost HP ---------- From: Harry Lewis [SMTP:harryl@VNET.IBM.COM] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 1997 2:10 PM To: pwg@pwg.org Subject: PWG> April Meetings I have no objection to moving the April meeting to Mephis week of 4/7. Harry Lewis From pwg-archive Tue Jan 14 18:32:50 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA12409 for pwg-outgoing; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 18:32:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701142332.SAA12404@lists.underscore.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 97 16:32:10 MST From: "Harry Lewis " To: pwg@pwg.org Subject: PWG> April Meetings Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class >My main concern is how much is being crammed into the allocated time. For >instance, using some round numbers... > >General - .5 day >IPP - 1 day >1394 - .5 day >PMP - .5 or 1 day >JMP - .5 or 1 day >Sense - .5 day > >And then add in some IETF time if that is occurring.... It looks like there >might be some overlapping meetings at the PWG. > >Bob Pentecost >HP Good observation, Bob. Perhaps we SHOULD think about how best to overlap, in general, until some projects get put to rest (hopefully PMP and JMP will reach that point soon). Harry Lewis - IBM Printing Systems From pwg-archive Tue Jan 14 21:22:57 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA12904 for pwg-outgoing; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 21:22:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 18:22:10 -0800 From: robert.herriot@Eng.Sun.COM (Robert Herriot) Message-Id: <199701150222.SAA09093@woden.eng.sun.com> To: pwg@pwg.org Subject: Re: PWG> April Meetings X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class Although the pwg meetings may add up to a lot of days to integrate with IETF meetings, I do not personally find many sessions at IETF to be of interest. If I am going to spend the time going to Memphis, I would prefer to have a reasonable amount of time to make progress on IPP. A two hour session at IETF isn't enough time to do much. Do we plan to have an IPP or PWG session at IETF? If so, would the same group attend this meeting as would attend the normal pwg meetings? Bob Herriot > From harryl@VNET.IBM.COM Tue Jan 14 15:38:59 1997 > >My main concern is how much is being crammed into the allocated time. For > >instance, using some round numbers... > > > >General - .5 day > >IPP - 1 day > >1394 - .5 day > >PMP - .5 or 1 day > >JMP - .5 or 1 day > >Sense - .5 day > > > >And then add in some IETF time if that is occurring.... It looks like there > >might be some overlapping meetings at the PWG. > > > >Bob Pentecost > >HP > > Good observation, Bob. Perhaps we SHOULD think about how best to > overlap, in general, until some projects get put to rest (hopefully > PMP and JMP will reach that point soon). > > Harry Lewis - IBM Printing Systems > From pwg-archive Wed Jan 15 00:32:10 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA13345 for pwg-outgoing; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:32:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701150532.AAA13340@lists.underscore.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 97 22:31:33 MST From: "Harry Lewis " To: pwg@pwg.org, pmp@pwg.org Subject: PWG> April Meetings Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class >Although the pwg meetings may add up to a lot of days to integrate with >IETF meetings, I do not personally find many sessions at IETF to be of >interest. If I am going to spend the time going to Memphis, I would >prefer to have a reasonable amount of time to make progress on IPP. A >two hour session at IETF isn't enough time to do much. > >Do we plan to have an IPP or PWG session at IETF? If so, would the >same group attend this meeting as would attend the normal pwg meetings? > >Bob Herriot I don't see why the whole "contingent" would need to go to the IETF meeting. I, for one, would remain with the PWG activities if they were moved to Memphis. The fact that PMP has a split chair makes the notion of conducting parallel PMP and IETF meetings quite feasible. Harry Lewis - IBM Printing Systems From pwg-archive Wed Jan 15 10:07:27 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA14247 for pwg-outgoing; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:07:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701151507.KAA14242@lists.underscore.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 08:05:59 MST From: "Harry Lewis " To: pwg@pwg.org, pmp@pwg.org, p1284_3@lexmark.com Subject: PWG> Re: PMP> Re: IPP> Question about April IPP meeting Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class Cc: "pmp%pwg.org" , P1284_3@lexmark.com >I'll suggest the last week in March. This should'nt interfere with spring >break, IETF, WinHEC or Thanksgiving. If anyone has a problem with this then >send a note to me. This applies to P1284.4, 1394PWG, PWG, IPP? >-Larry Sorry, Larry. Last week in March (as in week of 3/24) conflicts with Spring Break here in Colorado. Harry Lewis From pwg-archive Wed Jan 15 10:22:04 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA14642 for pwg-outgoing; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:22:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701151521.KAA14622@lists.underscore.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 08:07:21 MST From: "Harry Lewis " To: pwg@pwg.org, pmp@pwg.org, jmp@pwg.org Subject: PWG> January Minutes Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class I have posted 3 sets of minutes: pub/pwg/snmpmib/minutes/pwg-0197.doc,ps,txt --- the PWG minutes pub/pwg/pmp/minutes/pmp-0197.doc,ps.txt --- the PMP minutes pub/pwg/jmp/minutes/jmp-0197.doc,ps,txt --- the JMP minutes My minutes probably read more like notes - that's basically what they are. I tried to capture important decisions or assignments either in summary form in the overall PWG minutes (as I did for JMP) or within the specific project minutes (as I did for JMP and PMP). In all cases, I highlighted resolutions and actions in bold italic (.doc and .ps versions). Sorry, I do not have an Acrobat writer. If you find something unintelligible in my notes, please don't hesitate to ask me about it. Happy reading Harry Lewis - IBM Printing Systems From pwg-archive Wed Jan 15 10:48:53 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA15118 for pwg-outgoing; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:48:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701151548.KAA15113@lists.underscore.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 08:42:38 MST From: "Harry Lewis " To: pwg@pwg.org Subject: PWG> Finding January PWG minutes Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class Just a pointer, I used a dash in naming the pwg-0197.xx minutes which floated them to somewhere in the middle of the list of minutes under snmpmib. So, if your eyeballs automatically justify to the bottom, like mine did, you'll have to look around. I used this convention because it seems to align with what I see being done in IPP, etc. I hope this is the proper convention. Harry. From pwg-archive Wed Jan 15 18:05:12 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA16745 for pwg-outgoing; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:05:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701152306.AA23422@interlock.lexmark.com> To: Larry Stein Cc: "pwg%pwg.org" , p1284_3 From: Don Wright Date: 15 Jan 97 17:54:32 EST Subject: PWG> Re: PMP> Re: IPP> Question about April IPP meeting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class Last week of March includes Good Friday. That's not a problem for me but it might be for some people. Don From pwg-archive Wed Jan 15 18:31:21 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA17088 for pwg-outgoing; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:31:20 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:34:50 -0500 Message-Id: <00005785.1337@digprod.com> From: bwagner@digprod.com (Bill Wagner) Subject: PWG> February Meetings To: pwg@pwg.org, pmp@pwg.org, jmp@pwg.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class In reading through Harry's minutes (thank you Harry) and my own notes, I am unclear on the actual dates of meetings for February, and would appreciate clarification. 1. PWG notes indicate meeting from 3 to 7 Feb in San Jose PMP interoperability testing 3-5 Feb IPP 6 Feb JMP 7 Feb 2. PMP notes suggest that compatibility test is four days, that it is concerned with testing performed by a maximum of three people from each printer (and management system) vendor. The implication is that testing is concerned with the individual testing of each candidate system/application. 3. There is no mention of a PMP meeting to discuss either the currently active items (explanation and justification of changes from RFC1759), or the results/significance of the compatibility test. Such a meeting may be considered to follow and be independent of the testing itself, being of interest to all PMP participants. 4. Is the intent therefore not to have a PMP meeting in February? What about other PWG projects? Bill Wagner, DPI From pwg-archive Wed Jan 15 18:39:19 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA17565 for pwg-outgoing; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:39:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 18:40 EST From: jkm@underscore.com (JK Martin) To: pwg@pwg.org Subject: PWG> Re: PMP> February Meetings Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class Bill Wagner wrote: > 2. PMP notes suggest that compatibility test is four days, that it is > concerned with testing performed by a maximum of three people from > each printer (and management system) vendor. The implication is that > testing is concerned with the individual testing of each candidate > system/application. I'm not exactly sure what you mean here, but I'd like to suggest that we constraint the testing to a maximum of 3 days and no more. We can do it, I know we can. ;-) > 3. There is no mention of a PMP meeting to discuss either the > currently active items (explanation and justification of changes from > RFC1759), or the results/significance of the compatibility test. Such > a meeting may be considered to follow and be independent of the > testing itself, being of interest to all PMP participants. I certainly hope we have a meeting immediately the Interop Testing to discuss the results. This was one of the primary reasons we moved the meeting date in February in the first place, to ensure the max number of people could be involved in setting the guidelines and clarifications for the Alert Table, etc. > 4. Is the intent therefore not to have a PMP meeting in February? What > about other PWG projects? Thanks for bringing this up, Bill. I am respectfully asking for at least four hours (1/2 day) to present the work done on SENSE. I trust no one has a problem with that; if so, please speak up now. ...jay ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- JK Martin | Email: jkm@underscore.com -- -- Underscore, Inc. | Voice: (603) 889-7000 -- -- 41C Sagamore Park Road | Fax: (603) 889-2699 -- -- Hudson, NH 03015-4915 | Web: http://www.underscore.com -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pwg-archive Thu Jan 16 09:42:19 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA18390 for pwg-outgoing; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:42:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701161443.AA08084@interlock.lexmark.com> To: "pwg%pwg.org" From: Lloyd Young Date: 16 Jan 97 9:41:42 EST Subject: PWG> PMP> February Meetings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class Bill, 2. The interoperability testing is 3 days, Monday 2/3 thru 2/5. We will be setting up equipment on Sunday 2/2. 3/4. You are correct there is essentially no general PMP meeting in February. This is a result of moving the PWG meetings to the same week as the InterOp testing. There were only two days left in that week and these will be taken up with IPP, Sense, and JMP. I was planning on making this up with PMP conference calls where we can discuss the interoperability testing results and other active issues. Lloyd Young lpyoung@lexmark.com -------------- Original note ----------------- To: pwg@pwg.org, pmp@pwg.org, jmp@pwg.org cc: (bcc: Lloyd Young) From: bwagner%digprod.com @ interlock.lexmark.com (Bill Wagner) @ SMTP Date: 01/15/97 06:34:50 PM Subject: PMP> February Meetings In reading through Harry's minutes (thank you Harry) and my own notes, I am unclear on the actual dates of meetings for February, and would appreciate clarification. 1. PWG notes indicate meeting from 3 to 7 Feb in San Jose PMP interoperability testing 3-5 Feb IPP 6 Feb JMP 7 Feb 2. PMP notes suggest that compatibility test is four days, that it is concerned with testing performed by a maximum of three people from each printer (and management system) vendor. The implication is that testing is concerned with the individual testing of each candidate system/application. 3. There is no mention of a PMP meeting to discuss either the currently active items (explanation and justification of changes from RFC1759), or the results/significance of the compatibility test. Such a meeting may be considered to follow and be independent of the testing itself, being of interest to all PMP participants. 4. Is the intent therefore not to have a PMP meeting in February? What about other PWG projects? Bill Wagner, DPI From pwg-archive Thu Jan 16 10:46:12 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA20049 for pwg-outgoing; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:46:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <32DE50C3.12DD@dazel.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:01:07 -0600 From: Jim Walker Reply-To: walker@dazel.com Organization: DAZEL Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Larry Stein Cc: pwg@pwg.org, ipp@pwg.org, jmp@pwg.org, pmp@pwg.org, P1284_3@lexmark.com Subject: PWG> Re: PMP> Re: IPP> Question about April IPP meeting References: <2.2.32.19970115134335.0069f32c@pop3.fapo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class (Sorry about the wide cross-posting, but it seems that this issue *does* effect everybody.) Larry Stein wrote: > > I'll suggest the last week in March. This should'nt interfere with spring > break, IETF, WinHEC or Thanksgiving. If anyone has a problem with this then > send a note to me. This applies to P1284.4, 1394PWG, PWG, IPP? Ahh, but it does interfere with Easter, which is a problem for some! My recollection from the PWG meeting in Albuquerque was that we did discuss both, (1) adding another IPP meeting between the February/San Jose meeting and the April/Austin/Memphis meeting(s), and/or (2) adjusting the April meeting so that either, (a) we scrapped the Austin meeting, and just met in Memphis, or (b) we met some week other than April 2/3. Many permutations of the above were discussed, and the basic decision was to leave things as they were. Was I just amoking and inhaling, or does anybody else remember this? BTW, the PWG minutes do not show discussion of this particular issue, but does suggest that the April meeting be extended to three days (April 2/3/4, presumably in Austin). -- Jim Walker System Architect/DAZEL Wizard DAZEL Corporation, Austin, TX From pwg-archive Thu Jan 16 11:42:16 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA20937 for pwg-outgoing; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:42:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:21:17 -0700 From: "Scott A. Isaacson" To: pwg@pwg.org Subject: Re: PWG> April Meetings -Reply Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class I agree with Bob. At the December meeting, I was interested in going to many of the other IETF working group meetings, but soon learned that that was not very productive or even interesting. I am planning on the fact that we will be chartered by then and that IPP will have a formal working group meeting scheduled by the IETF at that time. If so, we should go to support the fact that we are now a formal working group. If we go to that much trouble, then we ought to have a real meeting rather than just-a-waste-of-2-hours meeting. If there is one formal meeting with the PMP/JMP working group and one for the IPP working group, then we ought to just have our meetings there. As Don pointed out, we would have to get some rooms and do this more formally than just meeting in the hallway to mark some progress. Scott >>> Robert Herriot 01/14/97 07:22pm >>> Although the pwg meetings may add up to a lot of days to integrate with IETF meetings, I do not personally find many sessions at IETF to be of interest. If I am going to spend the time going to Memphis, I would prefer to have a reasonable amount of time to make progress on IPP. A two hour session at IETF isn't enough time to do much. Do we plan to have an IPP or PWG session at IETF? If so, would the same group attend this meeting as would attend the normal pwg meetings? Bob Herriot > From harryl@VNET.IBM.COM Tue Jan 14 15:38:59 1997 > >My main concern is how much is being crammed into the allocated time. For > >instance, using some round numbers... > > > >General - .5 day > >IPP - 1 day > >1394 - .5 day > >PMP - .5 or 1 day > >JMP - .5 or 1 day > >Sense - .5 day > > > >And then add in some IETF time if that is occurring.... It looks like there > >might be some overlapping meetings at the PWG. > > > >Bob Pentecost > >HP > > Good observation, Bob. Perhaps we SHOULD think about how best to > overlap, in general, until some projects get put to rest (hopefully > PMP and JMP will reach that point soon). > > Harry Lewis - IBM Printing Systems > From pwg-archive Thu Jan 16 11:42:24 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA20947 for pwg-outgoing; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:42:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701161642.LAA20942@lists.underscore.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 09:35:04 MST From: "Harry Lewis " To: pwg@pwg.org Subject: PWG> Question about April IPP meeting Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class Jim Walker wrote... >Many permutations of the (PWG schedule) >were discussed, and the basic decision >was to leave things as they were. Was I just amoking and inhaling, >or does anybody else remember this? BTW, the PWG minutes do not show >discussion of this particular issue, but does suggest that the April >meeting be extended to three days (April 2/3/4, presumably in Austin). > >-- >Jim Walker Jim, you are right, I was not able to capture all the permutations that were batted around. I recorded what seemed to be the final consensus. New discussion on moving April to Memphis has started on the wire since the meeting last week. You were pretty far toward the back of the room, so I could not tell if you were smoking OR inhaling! Harry Lewis - Secretary at the Albuquerque meeting. From pwg-archive Thu Jan 16 17:28:27 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA23156 for pwg-outgoing; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 17:28:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 17:29 EST From: jkm@underscore.com (JK Martin) To: pwg@pwg.org Subject: PWG> Obtaining upload access to the PWG server Cc: walker@dazel.com Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class Jim Walker recently wrote: > I have (conveniently) lost the FTP server password, so I will send the > Word document to JK Martin under separate cover, to be posted on the > FTP server. Maintaining a Web/ftp/list server is a lot of work. Those of you who perform that job for your own organization should know exactly what I mean. Please try to do your part in loading information on the PWG server as necessary. Simply bailing out and sending it as an email message for someone else (at Underscore) to load on the server is not very friendly. If you need access to the PWG server, here's what you should do: - Call Underscore at 603.889.7000 and ask for Jeff Schnitzer, the PWG server master. You can normally reach Jeff between the hours of 10:00 am and 6:00 pm EST. - Jeff will give you the server password, along with any fierce words having to do with "Be Careful!" and all of that. - Do NOT give out the PWG server password to ANYONE outside of your immediate organization. This information should definitely be handled on a "Need to Know" basis; that is, don't broadcast the PWG server password in, say, an email message to all of your coworkers. Hopefully this procedure will give no one any heartburn. We here at Underscore have product to get out, too... ;-) ...jay ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- JK Martin | Email: jkm@underscore.com -- -- Underscore, Inc. | Voice: (603) 889-7000 -- -- 41C Sagamore Park Road | Fax: (603) 889-2699 -- -- Hudson, NH 03015-4915 | Web: http://www.underscore.com -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pwg-archive Thu Jan 16 18:37:05 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA23850 for pwg-outgoing; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 18:37:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701162337.AA25685@interlock.lexmark.com> To: Jim Walker Cc: Larry Stein , "pwg%pwg.org" , p1284_3 From: Don Wright Date: 16 Jan 97 18:26:20 EST Subject: PWG> Re: JMP> Re: PMP> Re: IPP> Question about April IPP meeting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class Jim, you are right. After much discussion, the IPP group which included almost everyone attending the PMP and JMP groups as well decided to leave the meetings as planned. I'm taking that as a group decision (it was almost unanimous) and proceeding with the dates as previously set. Don To: lstein%fapo.com @ interlock.lexmark.com (Larry Stein) @ SMTP cc: pwg%pwg.org @ interlock.lexmark.com @ SMTP, ipp%pwg.org @ interlock.lexmark.com @ SMTP, jmp%pwg.org @ interlock.lexmark.com @ SMTP, pmp%pwg.org @ interlock.lexmark.com @ SMTP, p1284_3 @ pad.prtdev.lexmark.com @ SMTP (bcc: Don Wright) From: walker%dazel.com @ interlock.lexmark.com (Jim Walker) @ SMTP Date: 01/16/97 10:01:07 AM Subject: JMP> Re: PMP> Re: IPP> Question about April IPP meeting (Sorry about the wide cross-posting, but it seems that this issue *does* effect everybody.) Larry Stein wrote: > > I'll suggest the last week in March. This should'nt interfere with spring > break, IETF, WinHEC or Thanksgiving. If anyone has a problem with this then > send a note to me. This applies to P1284.4, 1394PWG, PWG, IPP? Ahh, but it does interfere with Easter, which is a problem for some! My recollection from the PWG meeting in Albuquerque was that we did discuss both, (1) adding another IPP meeting between the February/San Jose meeting and the April/Austin/Memphis meeting(s), and/or (2) adjusting the April meeting so that either, (a) we scrapped the Austin meeting, and just met in Memphis, or (b) we met some week other than April 2/3. Many permutations of the above were discussed, and the basic decision was to leave things as they were. Was I just amoking and inhaling, or does anybody else remember this? BTW, the PWG minutes do not show discussion of this particular issue, but does suggest that the April meeting be extended to three days (April 2/3/4, presumably in Austin). -- Jim Walker System Architect/DAZEL Wizard DAZEL Corporation, Austin, TX From pwg-archive Thu Jan 16 18:59:00 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA24147 for pwg-outgoing; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 18:58:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701162359.AA26147@interlock.lexmark.com> To: Larry Stein Cc: "pwg%pwg.org" From: Don Wright Date: 16 Jan 97 18:54:59 EST Subject: PWG> Re: JMP> Re: PMP> Re: IPP> Question about April IPP meeting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class Austin meeting is still Mar 31 - April 4, 1997 31st - .4 1 - .4 2 - PWG/PMP 3 - IPP 4 - SENSE/JMP Don To: Don Wright cc: From: lstein%fapo.com @ interlock.lexmark.com (Larry Stein) @ SMTP Date: 01/16/97 03:48:35 PM Subject: Re: JMP> Re: PMP> Re: IPP> Question about April IPP meeting So Don....What are the dates of the what meeting? I'm confused now. -Larry At 06:26 PM 1/16/97 EST, you wrote: >Jim, you are right. After much discussion, the IPP group which included >almost everyone attending the PMP and JMP groups as well decided to >leave the meetings as planned. I'm taking that as a group decision (it was >almost unanimous) and proceeding with the dates as previously set. > >Don > >To: lstein%fapo.com @ interlock.lexmark.com (Larry Stein) @ SMTP >cc: pwg%pwg.org @ interlock.lexmark.com @ SMTP, ipp%pwg.org @ >interlock.lexmark.com @ SMTP, jmp%pwg.org @ interlock.lexmark.com @ SMTP, >pmp%pwg.org @ interlock.lexmark.com @ SMTP, p1284_3 @ pad.prtdev.lexmark.com @ >SMTP (bcc: Don Wright) >From: walker%dazel.com @ interlock.lexmark.com (Jim Walker) @ SMTP >Date: 01/16/97 10:01:07 AM >Subject: JMP> Re: PMP> Re: IPP> Question about April IPP meeting > >(Sorry about the wide cross-posting, but it seems that this > issue *does* effect everybody.) > >Larry Stein wrote: >> >> I'll suggest the last week in March. This should'nt interfere with spring >> break, IETF, WinHEC or Thanksgiving. If anyone has a problem with this then >> send a note to me. This applies to P1284.4, 1394PWG, PWG, IPP? > >Ahh, but it does interfere with Easter, which is a problem for some! >My recollection from the PWG meeting in Albuquerque was that we did >discuss both, > >(1) adding another IPP meeting between the February/San Jose meeting > and the April/Austin/Memphis meeting(s), and/or > >(2) adjusting the April meeting so that either, > (a) we scrapped the Austin meeting, and just met in Memphis, or > (b) we met some week other than April 2/3. > >Many permutations of the above were discussed, and the basic decision >was to leave things as they were. Was I just amoking and inhaling, >or does anybody else remember this? BTW, the PWG minutes do not show >discussion of this particular issue, but does suggest that the April >meeting be extended to three days (April 2/3/4, presumably in Austin). > >-- >Jim Walker >System Architect/DAZEL Wizard >DAZEL Corporation, Austin, TX > > > > ***************************************************************************** Larry A. Stein Phone: (619)292-2740 Warp Nine Engineering Fax: (619)292-8020 Web: http://www.fapo.com, www.mtesoft.com ***************************************************************************** From pwg-archive Fri Jan 17 15:57:20 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA29330 for pwg-outgoing; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:57:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701172058.AA23471@interlock.lexmark.com> To: "pwg%pwg.org" From: Don Wright Date: 17 Jan 97 15:52:10 EST Subject: PWG> February Agenda Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class Since I posted the April agenda yesterday, I guess it is only appropriate that I remind everyone of the February agenda. Feb 3-5 PWG - Bake-off, discussions, etc. at Stardust Labs, Campbell CA Feb 6 IPP 8:30 - 5:30 at Adobe Feb 7 SENSE 8:30 - 12:30 JMP 1:30 - 5:30 (both at Adobe) Where: Adobe Headquarters 345 Park Avenue Corner of Park and Almaden San Jose, California Albertus Conference Room, 2nd floor ************************************************************* * Don Wright (don@lexmark.com) Lexmark International * * Manager Strategic Alliances * * 740 New Circle Rd Phone: 606-232-4808 * * Lexington, KY 40511 Fax: 606-232-6740 * ************************************************************* From pwg-archive Sat Jan 18 10:39:44 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA03259 for pwg-outgoing; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 10:39:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701181540.AA06694@interlock.lexmark.com> To: "pwg%pwg.org" From: Lloyd Young Date: 18 Jan 97 10:38:16 EST Subject: PWG> February Agenda Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class I wanted to clarify Don's February Agenda e-mail so there is no misunderstanding. Feb 3 through 5 are allocated strictly for Printer MIB interoperability testing. There will not be any official PWG or PMP meetings these 3 days. The only people that are involved in the interoperability testing are people who have products that are being tested or who have tools that are being used in the testing. Lloyd -------------- Original e-mail ----------------------- From: Don Wright Date: 01/17/97 03:52:10 PM Subject: PWG> February Agenda Since I posted the April agenda yesterday, I guess it is only appropriate that I remind everyone of the February agenda. Feb 3-5 PWG - Bake-off, discussions, etc. at Stardust Labs, Campbell CA Feb 6 IPP 8:30 - 5:30 at Adobe Feb 7 SENSE 8:30 - 12:30 JMP 1:30 - 5:30 (both at Adobe) Where: Adobe Headquarters 345 Park Avenue Corner of Park and Almaden San Jose, California Albertus Conference Room, 2nd floor From pwg-archive Tue Jan 21 12:21:52 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA15282 for pwg-outgoing; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:21:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970121172311.00716858@pop3.fapo.com> X-Sender: lstein@pop3.fapo.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:23:11 -0800 To: P1284_3@lexmark.com, pwg@pwg.org, 1394-prt-img@fireflyinc.com, pwg@pwg.org From: Larry Stein Subject: PWG> 1284 and 1394PWG Meetings and Agendas Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class Meeting Notice and Agendas IEEE P1284.3 IEEE P1284.4 1394PWG Sorry for the wide distribution of this notice. This notice is to provide information for the IEEE P1284.3 and .4 meetings and to announce the first working meeting of the new 1394PWG committee. This meeting schedule is a departure from our 'regular' meeting schedule. I'm providing the agendas for the meetings at the same time so that the new people on the list can see what will be discussed at each meeting. If you would like more information on the committees, please check out the web site at "http://www.fapo.com/ieee1284.htm". The IEEE P1284.3 committee will NO LONGER be meeting with the .4, PWG and the 1394PWG groups. The .3 meeting for February will be a one day meeting and is scheduled so that most of the attendees can fly in and out the same day. The meeting information is: P1284.3 Agenda: 1- Incorporate timing changes into the spec. 2- Datalink requirement changes due to P1284.4 requirements. 3- Service Provider Interface 4- Draft review Tuesday, February 11 San Francisco Airport Marriott 9:30AM to 6:00PM Lunch included. The meeting cost will be split amoung the attendees. The information for the IEEE P1284.4 and 1394PWG meetings is as follows: P1284.4 Agenda: 1- Review finite state machine diagarms 2- Error Handling 3- Multiple Commands 4- Draft review 1394PWG Agenda: This is the first working meeting for this group. This is my proposed agenda for the meeting and it is subject to change (particularly after item 4). 1- Elect Chair (Co-Chair), Secretary and Editor 2- Review the initial Charter 3- Discuss coordination of working group with the PWG, 1394TA and Asian and European companies. 4- Refine the scope of the project into tasks 5- Start working. IEEE P1284.4 February 24-25 1394PWG February 26 Meetings: 8:30AM to 5:00PM Embassy Suites Orlando Plaza International 8250 Jamaican Court Orlando, Florida 32819 Ph. 1-407-345-8250 Fax 1-407-352-1463 Rooms: $140.00 per night, includes breakfast Reservations: 1-800-327-9797 Cutoff date: 7 February 1997 BE SURE TO ASK FOR THE IEEE OR THE WARP NINE GROUP. The meeting charge is TBD ($35-$45 per meeting day). The charge includes all meeting room expenses, AV charges and break charges. All attendees are responsible for making their own hotel reservations. PLEASE RSVP TO ME (lstein@fapo.com) WITH THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION: Name Meetings to attend Date of arrival Date of departure I need this information to coordinate the catering and the meeting charges. Thank you, Larry Stein ***************************************************************************** Larry A. Stein Phone: (619)292-2740 Warp Nine Engineering Fax: (619)292-8020 Web: http://www.fapo.com, www.mtesoft.com ***************************************************************************** From pwg-archive Fri Jan 24 18:02:55 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA03531 for pwg-outgoing; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 18:02:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 18:02:51 -0500 (EST) From: gina@aestiva.com Message-Id: <199701242302.SAA03526@lists.underscore.com> To: pwg@pwg.org Reply-To: gina@aestiva.com Subject: PWG> May I Send You Some Info? Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class To the Webmaster, I'd like to send you a short email regarding a web site product which allows you to build advanced sites without CGI programming - with your permission. If you'd like this information, please reply. If not, please ignore this message. Thank you for your consideration, Gina Woolfolk =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= AESTIVA Phone: (9am-5pm PST) 1-888-237-8482 1-310-318-1150 http://www.aestiva.com e-mail: gina@aestiva.com =================================== From pwg-archive Wed Jan 29 18:06:58 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA26720 for pwg-outgoing; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 18:06:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701292307.AA09650@interlock.lexmark.com> To: "pwg%pwg.org" From: Don Wright Date: 29 Jan 97 18:05:50 EST Subject: PWG> PING Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class Please ping me for next weeks meeting indicating which days you will attend: Thursday, Feb 6th - IPP Friday, Feb 7th - SENSE & JMP As previously announced, these meeting are at Adobe in San Jose. Don ************************************************************* * Don Wright (don@lexmark.com) Lexmark International * * Manager Strategic Alliances * * 740 New Circle Rd Phone: 606-232-4808 * * Lexington, KY 40511 Fax: 606-232-6740 * ************************************************************* From pwg-archive Wed Jan 29 18:26:07 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA27055 for pwg-outgoing; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 18:26:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <32EFDC35.7FFC@pogo.wv.tek.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 15:24:37 -0800 From: Chuck Adams Organization: Tektronix, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Don Wright Cc: pwg@pwg.org Subject: Re: PWG> PING References: <199701292307.AA09650@interlock.lexmark.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class Don, I will attend both days. Chuck Adams Tektronix, Inc. From pwg-archive Wed Jan 29 19:13:25 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA27724 for pwg-outgoing; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 19:13:24 -0500 (EST) From: YUKI@KEI-CA.CCMAIL.CompuServe.COM Date: 29 Jan 97 19:11:39 EST To: , Subject: Re: PWG> PING Message-ID: <970130001139_702420.204300_BHD53-61@CompuServe.COM> Sender: owner-pwg@PWG.ORG Precedence: first-class Don Following are attending the meeting. Atsushi Yuki IPP Shinji Mochizuki IPP Shigenaka Kanemitsu IPP & Sense, JMP Thank you A. Yuki Kyocera ___________________________________ o?EM _______________________________________ iAu?: PWG> PING ?uEMA?: INTERNET:don@lexmark.com at CSERVE o.ot: 01/29/97 19:14 Sender: pwg-owner@pwg.org Received: from lists.underscore.com (uscore-1.mv.com [199.125.85.30]) by arl- img-5.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id SAA27849; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 18:13:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5 /8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA26792; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 18:12:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Wed, 29 Jan 1997 18:11:35 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA26720 for pwg-outgoing; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 18:06:57 -0500 (EST) Message- Id: <199701292307.AA09650@interlock.lexmark.com> To: "pwg%pwg.org" From: Don Wright Date: 29 Jan 97 18:05:50 EST Subject: PWG> PING Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Please ping me for next weeks meeting indicating which days you will attend: Thursday, Feb 6th - IPP Friday, Feb 7th - SENSE & JMP As previously announced, these meeting are at Adobe in San Jose. Don ************************************************************* * Don Wright (don@lexmark.com) Lexmark International * * Manager Strategic Alliances * * 740 New Circle Rd Phone: 606-232- 4808 * * Lexington, KY 40511 Fax: 606- 232-6740 * ************************************************** *********** From pwg-archive Thu Jan 30 11:19:53 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA01093 for pwg-outgoing; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 11:19:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701301620.AA04761@interlock.lexmark.com> To: "pwg%pwg.org" From: Don Wright Date: 30 Jan 97 11:15:17 EST Subject: PWG> IPP Conference Call Minutes from 1/29/97 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class I have uploaded the conference call minutes from yesterday's call (1/29/97). They are available on the ftp directory in /pub/pwg/ipp/minutes as follows: 970129-ipp-conference-call.doc 970129-ipp-conference-call.pdf 970129-ipp-conference-call.ps For the computationally challenged (i.e. those who can't deal with any of the above file types) I have attached a text version to this note. It is hard to read and ugly but..... +++++++ Internet Printing Project Conference Call - January 29, 1997 The meeting was called to order at 4:05 PM EST. Attendees: Mabry Dozier - QMS Jeff Copeland - QMS Lee Ferrell - Canon Bob Herriott - Sun Carl-Uno Manros - Xerox Tom Hastings - Xerox Roger Debry - IBM Peter Zehler - Zerox Randy Turner - Sharp Jim Walker - Dazel Don Wright - Lexmark Agenda: * Feedback from WEBDAV meeting * No negative feedback on Charter as per Keith Moore * Netscape has expressed interest in joining us for the 2/6 meeting * MIME - discussion with one of the MIME experts at meeting * WEBDAV probably will not use MIME except HTTP MIME * We could do the same * The W3C enhancements to CSS for printing were discussed at the WEBDAV meeting. They have no interest in using these. * Requirement and Scenarios * IPP should not contain things that are not in a scenario * We will indicate in the requirements/scenarios things that won't be addressed in IPP * Reviewed the closed items in the IPP REQ Issues list * #17 - re-open, requirements document needs to identify notification means * #19 - flag in requirements document that HOLD/RELEASE is not in V1 * Reviewed open issues * #11 - added to scenarios * #14 - closed - not in V1 * #15 - closed - outside scope of IPP * #21 - add examples * #22 - need requirements statement and then passed to the Directory & Model groups * #28 - close, that was the intent of scenario 2.1 * #31 - close - scenario modified * #33, 34, 35 - close - added to scenarios * #42 - close - clarified * #43 - close - scenario added * #44 - close - scenario added * #45 - close - e-mail removed, generic asynchronous response * #46, 47 - close - done - New Issues and Scenarios documents will be posted 1/30/97 * Model and Semantics * Bob Herriott and Tom Hastings will have a report at the 2/6 meeting * Bob reviewed several of the issues being addressed * A Model/Semantics issues list will be created to track issues * Directory * List of issues from Keith Carter * Some of the scenarios make the need to move on this more pressing * Need a WHIP for now, Isaacson won't be available until Models is done. * Protocol * Roger will be updating Protocol White Paper by 1/30/97 * IPP Meeting Agenda * Microsoft Presentation * Wind up Scenario discussion * Model/Semantics * Protocol * Other sub-groups * Modeling Sub-group meeting on Wednesday PM at Sun An e-mail was distributed today announcing that the IETF has chartered the Internet FAX working group. The meeting adjourned at 6:10 PM +++++++ ************************************************************* * Don Wright (don@lexmark.com) Lexmark International * * Manager Strategic Alliances * * 740 New Circle Rd Phone: 606-232-4808 * * Lexington, KY 40511 Fax: 606-232-6740 * ************************************************************* From pwg-archive Thu Jan 30 11:23:25 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA01263 for pwg-outgoing; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 11:23:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701301624.AA04899@interlock.lexmark.com> To: "pwg%pwg.org" From: Don Wright Date: 30 Jan 97 11:15:17 EST Subject: PWG> IPP Conference Call Minutes from 1/29/97 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class I have uploaded the conference call minutes from yesterday's call (1/29/97). They are available on the ftp directory in /pub/pwg/ipp/minutes as follows: 970129-ipp-conference-call.doc 970129-ipp-conference-call.pdf 970129-ipp-conference-call.ps For the computationally challenged (i.e. those who can't deal with any of the above file types) I have attached a text version to this note. It is hard to read and ugly but..... +++++++ Internet Printing Project Conference Call - January 29, 1997 The meeting was called to order at 4:05 PM EST. Attendees: Mabry Dozier - QMS Jeff Copeland - QMS Lee Ferrell - Canon Bob Herriott - Sun Carl-Uno Manros - Xerox Tom Hastings - Xerox Roger Debry - IBM Peter Zehler - Zerox Randy Turner - Sharp Jim Walker - Dazel Don Wright - Lexmark Agenda: * Feedback from WEBDAV meeting * No negative feedback on Charter as per Keith Moore * Netscape has expressed interest in joining us for the 2/6 meeting * MIME - discussion with one of the MIME experts at meeting * WEBDAV probably will not use MIME except HTTP MIME * We could do the same * The W3C enhancements to CSS for printing were discussed at the WEBDAV meeting. They have no interest in using these. * Requirement and Scenarios * IPP should not contain things that are not in a scenario * We will indicate in the requirements/scenarios things that won't be addressed in IPP * Reviewed the closed items in the IPP REQ Issues list * #17 - re-open, requirements document needs to identify notification means * #19 - flag in requirements document that HOLD/RELEASE is not in V1 * Reviewed open issues * #11 - added to scenarios * #14 - closed - not in V1 * #15 - closed - outside scope of IPP * #21 - add examples * #22 - need requirements statement and then passed to the Directory & Model groups * #28 - close, that was the intent of scenario 2.1 * #31 - close - scenario modified * #33, 34, 35 - close - added to scenarios * #42 - close - clarified * #43 - close - scenario added * #44 - close - scenario added * #45 - close - e-mail removed, generic asynchronous response * #46, 47 - close - done - New Issues and Scenarios documents will be posted 1/30/97 * Model and Semantics * Bob Herriott and Tom Hastings will have a report at the 2/6 meeting * Bob reviewed several of the issues being addressed * A Model/Semantics issues list will be created to track issues * Directory * List of issues from Keith Carter * Some of the scenarios make the need to move on this more pressing * Need a WHIP for now, Isaacson won't be available until Models is done. * Protocol * Roger will be updating Protocol White Paper by 1/30/97 * IPP Meeting Agenda * Microsoft Presentation * Wind up Scenario discussion * Model/Semantics * Protocol * Other sub-groups * Modeling Sub-group meeting on Wednesday PM at Sun An e-mail was distributed today announcing that the IETF has chartered the Internet FAX working group. The meeting adjourned at 6:10 PM +++++++ ************************************************************* * Don Wright (don@lexmark.com) Lexmark International * * Manager Strategic Alliances * * 740 New Circle Rd Phone: 606-232-4808 * * Lexington, KY 40511 Fax: 606-232-6740 * ************************************************************* From pwg-archive Thu Jan 30 17:03:43 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA02681 for pwg-outgoing; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 17:03:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701302204.AA21209@interlock.lexmark.com> To: "pwg%pwg.org" , P1284_3 From: Don Wright Date: 30 Jan 97 16:59:25 EST Subject: PWG> April Meeting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class I am having trouble finding hotel space in Austin. Anyone object to San Antonio (or Dallas as a last resort)? No comments about the dates; we have already been through that can of worms. Please don't respond unless you can't deal with the change in locale. (We'll have to find a replacement for the County Line, but....) Don ************************************************************* * Don Wright (don@lexmark.com) Lexmark International * * Manager Strategic Alliances * * 740 New Circle Rd Phone: 606-232-4808 * * Lexington, KY 40511 Fax: 606-232-6740 * ************************************************************* From pwg-archive Fri Jan 31 17:04:15 1997 Return-Path: owner-pwg Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA09025 for pwg-outgoing; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:04:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970131134009.006f2a48@pop3.fapo.com> X-Sender: lstein@pop3.fapo.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 14:04:33 -0800 To: P1284_3@lexmark.com, 1394-prt-img@fireflyinc.com, pwg@pwg.org, pwg@pwg.org From: Larry Stein Subject: PWG> Change in Meeting - Reminder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pwg@pwg.org Precedence: first-class Please note the meeting change for the P1284.3. This is also a reminder to make your hotel reservations this week and to RSVP to me directly. Thank you. Meeting Notice and Agendas IEEE P1284.3 IEEE P1284.4 1394PWG Sorry for the wide distribution of this notice. This notice is to provide information for the IEEE P1284.3 and .4 meetings and to announce the first working meeting of the new 1394PWG committee. This meeting schedule is a departure from our 'regular' meeting schedule. I'm providing the agendas for the meetings at the same time so that the new people on the list can see what will be discussed at each meeting. If you would like more information on the committees, please check out the web site at "http://www.fapo.com/ieee1284.htm". **************** CHANGED FROM PREVIOUS NOTICE ************************************* The IEEE P1284.3 committee will NO LONGER be meeting with the .4, PWG and the 1394PWG groups. The .3 meeting for February will be two one day meetings and is scheduled so that most of the attendees can fly in and out the same day. Each day will have a different focus. Due to a scheduling problem, the .3 meeting will be held on Feb. 18 and 19, rather than 2/11. The 2/18 meeting will focus on the SPI layer and Datalink issues. The 2/19 meeting will be on timing and hardware issues, as well as draft review. The next .3 meeting will be one meeting. The meeting information is: 2/18 P1284.3 Software Agenda: 1- Datalink requirement changes due to P1284.4 requirements. 2- Service Provider Interface 3- SPI Draft review 2/19 P1284.3 Hardware Agenda: 1- Incorporate timing changes into the spec. 2- Draft review Tuesday and Wednesday, February 18-19 San Francisco Airport Marriott 9:30AM to 6:00PM Lunch included. The meeting cost will be split amoung the attendees. Please RSVP to me ASAP. Let me know which meeting(s) you will be attending. ********************* End of Change ********************************************* The information for the IEEE P1284.4 and 1394PWG meetings is as follows: P1284.4 Agenda: 1- Review finite state machine diagarms 2- Error Handling 3- Multiple Commands 4- Draft review 1394PWG Agenda: This is the first working meeting for this group. This is my proposed agenda for the meeting and it is subject to change (particularly after item 4). 1- Elect Chair (Co-Chair), Secretary and Editor 2- Review the initial Charter 3- Discuss coordination of working group with the PWG, 1394TA and Asian and European companies. 4- Refine the scope of the project into tasks 5- Start working. IEEE P1284.4 February 24-25 1394PWG February 26 Meetings: 8:30AM to 5:00PM Embassy Suites Orlando Plaza International 8250 Jamaican Court Orlando, Florida 32819 Ph. 1-407-345-8250 Fax 1-407-352-1463 Rooms: $140.00 per night, includes breakfast Reservations: 1-800-327-9797 Cutoff date: 7 February 1997 BE SURE TO ASK FOR THE IEEE OR THE WARP NINE GROUP. The meeting charge is TBD ($35-$45 per meeting day). The charge includes all meeting room expenses, AV charges and break charges. All attendees are responsible for making their own hotel reservations. PLEASE RSVP TO ME (lstein@fapo.com) WITH THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION: Name Meetings to attend Date of arrival Date of departure I need this information to coordinate the catering and the meeting charges. Thank you, Larry Stein ***************************************************************************** Larry A. Stein Phone: (619)292-2740 Warp Nine Engineering Fax: (619)292-8020 Web: http://www.fapo.com *****************************************************************************