From fin-archive Mon May 11 16:21:09 1998 Return-Path: fin-owner Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA08231 for fin-outgoing; Mon, 11 May 1998 16:18:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 13:08:46 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: Ron Bergman To: fin@pwg.org cc: Harry Lewis Subject: FIN> New Finisher MIB Document Available Message-ID: X-X-Sender: rbergma@newmai.dpc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fin-owner@pwg.org Precedence: bulk Status: RO I have sent the updated Finisher MIB document to the IETF to be added to the Internet-Drafts as: draft-ietf-printmib-finishing-02.txt This document has also been added to the PWG server in the directory: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/fin/internet-drafts There is also a pdf version that includes revision marks: draft-ietf-printmib-finihsing-rev-02.pdf This version includes all the changes agreed to in the Portland meeting except, due to time constraints: 1. The definitions proposed by Barry Mandel, with the exception of the punch patterns, have not been included. 2. The Conformance Statements are not included. I will attempt to have a proposal on both of these sections for the meeting next week. (Tom, is there a Kinkos in Crystal City? ;-) Ron Bergman Dataproducts Corp. From fin-archive Mon May 11 18:56:14 1998 Return-Path: fin-owner Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA11204 for fin-outgoing; Mon, 11 May 1998 18:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980511154853.01330da0@garfield> X-Sender: hastings@garfield X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 15:48:53 PDT To: Ron Bergman From: Tom Hastings Subject: Re: FIN> New Finisher MIB Document Available Cc: fin@pwg.org, Harry Lewis In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: fin-owner@pwg.org Precedence: bulk Status: RO I've made a .pdf file from the .txt file and added line numbers. It has no revision marks, so that is the one we should use for e-mail discussions: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/fin/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-printmib-finishing- 02.txt.pdf Thanks, Tom At 13:08 05/11/1998 PDT, Ron Bergman wrote: >I have sent the updated Finisher MIB document to the IETF to be added to >the Internet-Drafts as: > > draft-ietf-printmib-finishing-02.txt > >This document has also been added to the PWG server in the directory: > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/fin/internet-drafts > >There is also a pdf version that includes revision marks: > > draft-ietf-printmib-finihsing-rev-02.pdf > > >This version includes all the changes agreed to in the Portland meeting >except, due to time constraints: > > 1. The definitions proposed by Barry Mandel, with the exception of the > punch patterns, have not been included. > > 2. The Conformance Statements are not included. > >I will attempt to have a proposal on both of these sections for the >meeting next week. > >(Tom, is there a Kinkos in Crystal City? ;-) > > > Ron Bergman > Dataproducts Corp. > > > > From fin-archive Fri May 15 17:27:15 1998 Return-Path: fin-owner Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA08968 for fin-outgoing; Fri, 15 May 1998 17:18:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 14:08:14 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: Ron Bergman To: fin@pwg.org cc: Harry Lewis Subject: FIN> New Definitions for the MIB Document Message-ID: X-X-Sender: rbergma@newmai.dpc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: fin-owner@pwg.org Precedence: bulk Status: RO Here are the additions to the Terminology section based upon Barry Mandel's submission on April 6th. I have made some minor editing changes. I have indicates the areas that should be discussed next week. Ron Bergman Dataproducts Corp. 2.1 General Terminology 2.2 Process Specific Terminology FOLDING: Z Fold: A fold in which two folds are placed in the sheet in opposite directions. The first fold is located at 25% of the sheet length, and the second is located at 50% of the sheet length (i.e., the center of the sheet). Z Folding is often used on 11x17 inch or A3 size sheets, when they are included in sets containing 8.5x11 inch or A4 size sheets. Half Fold: To fold a sheet in half so that one of the resulting dimensions are exactly half the original sheet. Often used for signatures or booklets. Letter Fold: Folding a sheet roughly in thirds. Usually performed on 8.5x11 inch or A4 size sheets for insertion into an envelope. Nesting: The process of inserting sheets into other sheets that are being folded. For example, nesting a brochure inside a letter in preparation for mailing. **** ISSUE: Is this definition applicable? ********************************************************************** Signature: The process by which images are placed on a large sheet of paper in correct panel areas and in the proper orientation such that when the sheet is folded it will produce a booklet with each page in the proper order and orientation. **** ISSUE: Used in other definitions. Keep? ********************************************************************** BINDING: Adhesive Binding: A method of attaching sheets together to form a book or booklet using glue or adhesive. Some adhesive binding methods apply the glue to sheets individually, before merging them together for form a book, but most methods involve the application of adhesive to an entire book of sheets. Comb Binding: A method of binding in which a series of small rectangular holes is placed along the bind edge the sheets. The sheets are then held together using a tube shaped plastic binding strip with comb like fingers that fit through the holes in the sheets. Spiral Binding: Sometimes referred to as wire binding, this binding method is a mechanical bind in which the individual leaves are held together by a wire or plastic spiral that is fed through small holes in the paper binding edge. Padding: Applying a non-penetrating adhesive to the edge of a stack of sheets such that the sheets can be easily peeled off one at a time. Frequently used for forms. Velo Binding: A bind formed by punching holes into the edge of the sheets, placing a two piece plastic strip (one side formed with plastic pins that pass through the holes) along the edge and then staking the two pieces together. Perfect Binding: A method of binding in which all pages are cut and roughed up at the back or binding edge and held together by an adhesive. Tape Binding: The act of placing tape over the bind edge of a set. Sometimes contains adhesive to provide a functional bind to the set, and sometimes done for decorative purposes on a set that has been edge stapled. **** New enums: adhesive(9) comb(10) padding(11) ********************************************************************** **** ISSUE: There is no definition for plastic(5). ********************************************************************** SLITTING/CUTTING/TRIMMING: **** ISSUE: Present labels only refer to Slitting. Should they be changed to SlittingCutting or SlittingCuttingTrimming? ********************************************************************** Trim: To cut the edges of a sheet or set of sheets. Often performed on a booklet of sheets that have been folded to eliminate the "creep" or edge shingling that results from the folding process. Tab Cutting: The act of cutting the edge of a sheet to form an index tab, thereby allowing quick identification and access. The external tabs are sequentially placed along the book edge for visibility and ease of grasping. Perforating: The act of cutting a series of very small, closely spaced holes or slots into a sheet to allow for ease of separation of a portion of the sheet. Sometimes also used to ease bending/hinging of heavy weight papers. Scoring: A means of applying small linear grooves or impressions along a sheet to allow easy folding. Often used on heavy weight sheets and book covers. Slitting: The action of cutting apart a large sheet to form smaller sheets. Usually done using a sharp circular roll system. **** New enums: trim(6) tabCut(7) perforate(8) ********************************************************************** **** No definitions for slitAndSeparate(4) and slitAndMerge(5) ********************************************************************** **** Is a generic slit(3) and cut(9) required? ********************************************************************** STITCHING/STAPLING: Staple: The process of binding a set of sheets together using a 'U' shaped piece of metal wire that is punched through the set. The ends of the metal staple are then bent over, or 'clinched' to hold the staple in place. Technically the term 'stapler' refers to devices that use pre-cut metal staples, but the term is also commonly used to refer to devices that use wire spools and then cut/form the staple. (see the definition of Stitch) Stitch: The process of binding a set of sheets together using a 'U' shaped piece of metal wire that is punched through the set. The wire used to form the staple is cut and formed into a 'U' shape in the stitcher head, and the staple 'leg' length is often varied depending on the number of sheets to be bound together. The ends of the metal staple are bent over, or 'clinched' to hold the staple in place. Stitching can also refer to the process of sewing the edges of the signatures of a book together. Active Clinch: A method of folding over the legs of a staple using a moving clinch mechanism. Active clinching results in a flat clinch. Passive Clinch: Sometimes called an anvil clinch, a method of folding over the legs of a staple using a curved shaped forming plate. Passive clinching results in a curved shaped staple leg that does not lay flat to the set. Bypass Clinch: A type of clinch in which the legs of the staple are bent over with a slight offset relative to one another. The method allows long staples to be used on small sets without staple leg interference after clinching. Saddle Stitch: The process of stapling a set along its center line as part of a booklet making process. Usually 2 or 3 staples are used. Landscape Single Stapling: The process of placing a single staple in the upper left hand corner of a set that has an image orientation such that the sheets are viewed in Landscape position. **** ISSUE: This definition does not fit with our current enums. Is this definition required? ********************************************************************** Portrait Single Stapling: The process of placing a single staple in the upper left hand corner of a set that has an image orientation such that the sheets are viewed in Portrait position. **** ISSUE: This definition does not fit with our current enums. Is this definition required? ********************************************************************** Dual Stapling: The process of placing 2 staples along the bind edge of a set. The staples are typically located at 25% and 75% of the length of the bind edge. Although dual stapling is often performed on the long edge of a set, legal documents are frequently dual stapled along the top, or short edge of the set. Triple Stapling: Same as above, but using 3 staples along the bind edge, and usually applies to the long edge only. **** New enums: dualStaple(11) and tripleStaple(12) ********************************************************************** **** ISSUE: The placement for these staple operations can be top, bottom, left or right. 8 enums could be added to define all combinations, which seems rather awkward, or use the finAxisOrientation and finAxisOffset attributes to provide this position information. ********************************************************************** WRAPPING: Shrink Wrap: A wrap of thin plastic which when heated will shrink and wrap tightly around the stack thus preparing it for shipment. Band Wrap: Bundling a finished stack to prepare for shipment. Also known as Strap Wrap. **** New enum: bandWrap(6) ********************************************************************** **** ISSUE: There is no definition of paperWrap(5) ********************************************************************** **** Punching definitions were really the punch hole pattern and hole size parameters. These were added in the 02 draft. **** Stack definitions are not applicable. These functions are already in the Printer MIB and are not a part of the Finisher MIB. ...END From fin-archive Thu May 28 16:35:26 1998 Return-Path: fin-owner Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists.underscore.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA27254 for fin-outgoing; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:34:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Harry Lewis To: Subject: FIN> Fin Minutes posted. Message-ID: <5030300021338945000002L052*@MHS> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 16:41:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: fin-owner@pwg.org Precedence: bulk Status: RO Thanks to all who participated. Ron's markup's contain most of the deta= il. HTML and PDF posted - WITH line numbers! ;-) ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/fin/minutes/fin-0598.pdf Harry Lewis - IBM Printing Systems =