PWG Steering Committee Minutes * 13 January 2025

Attendees

Smith Kennedy (HP Inc, PWG Vice Chair)
Jeremy Leber (Lexmark, PWG Chair)
Ira McDonald (High North, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Paul Tykodi (TCS, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Bill Wagner (TIC, former Cloud WG Chair, former WIMS WG Chair)

Preface

This meeting was announced and chaired by Jeremy Leber.

These minutes were prepared by Ira McDonald with draft minutes from Smith Kennedy.

Agenda

(0) Agenda bashing, IP Policy, minute taker

- Review agenda and state PWG IP Policy
  - Meeting was called to order and agenda reviewed

- Revised Agenda:

  (1) Administrivia
  (2) Action Item Review (all)
  (3) February F2F - Plenary Slide Review (all)
  (4) Communication Challenges (all)
  (5) Cloud Printing and PWG (Paul)
  (6) JG 80 Liaison Discussion - any updates? (Paul)
  (7) PWG 3D - IPP Article Development (Paul)
  (8) PWG 3D - PR Opportunities (Paul)
  (9) OpenPrinting/GSoC - updates (Ira)
  (10) Other Liaisons (all)
  (11) Next SC Meetings (all)

(1) Administrivia
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20250106.htm

- IPR and Antitrust

- Roll Call

- Review minutes of SC meeting (6 January 2025)
  - Approved

(2) Action Item Review (all)

ACTION: 12/16/24 - Paul to send an email to the convener of the Construction Working Group on 
the ASTM side to find a way to join so that he can contribute to JG80
- CLOSED

ACTION: 12/16/24 - Paul to finish email to a guy at Auburn U. that does the cybersecurity track 
at [ICAM?]
- OPEN

ACTION: 12/16/24 - Paul to get the draft document presented at VDMA meeting that is close to 
completion and approval so that he and we can make comments on it before it is approved (if that 
opening is still available)
- OPEN

ACTION:  01/06/25 - Bill to create a slide for the February 2025 Plenary deck summarizing the 
status of the HCD iTC
- IN PROGRESS - HCD iTC meeting later this afternoon

ACTION:  01/06/25 - Jeremy to make a Survey Monkey asking for possible May 2025 F2F in person 
attendees, and limitations / suggested locations, and possible adjacent events that might make 
it more attractive / possible to kill 2 birds with 1 stone
- Add a question / way to indicate collisions - none from WFA / IETF / IEEE / BTSIG / NFC Forum
- IN PROGRESS

(3) February F2F - Plenary Slide Review (all)

- Discussion
  - Note: Ira will be absent from the PWG Plenary session so Mike / Smith / Jeremy and Bill 
    will cover content

  - Add # of members that have paid / haven't paid at the top of the Membership slide

  - Add SurveyMonkey slide to future meeting schedule slides

  - Also set up SurveyMonkey to renew an individual membership

  - Add graph of member numbers from the last 3 years of plenary decks?

(4) PWG Communication Challenges (all)

- Discussion
  - SC reflector seems to be working, as is IPP and IPP Everywhere

(5) Cloud Printing and PWG (Paul)

- Discussion
  - Paul found multiple members who implement cloud printing solutions
    - Microsoft, Printer Logic, PaperCut
    - PrinterOn has gotten bought and sold

  - Ira found other members (via Google) who implement cloud printing solutions
    - Canon, Ricoh, Xerox

  - Is there anything we the PWG should be doing?

  - Are there any implementations of IPP Infrastructure Printer?
    - https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201311 - notice the AirPrint Servers listing

  - IPP Everywhere has Server certification but nobody has certified their system for that

  - Should we review the marketing info of various cloud print vendors and see if there is 
    anything to standardize?

  - What are we actually talking about? 
    - We need to make pictures and create descriptions of the areas this topic should pursue 

    - We all have interests in cloud printing but where do the solution "stacks" differ?

(6) JG 80 Liaison Discussion - any updates? (Paul)
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- Discussion
  - No changes
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(7) PWG 3D - IPP Article Development (Paul)
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- Discussion
  - No changes
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(8) PWG 3D - PR Opportunities (Paul)
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- Discussion
  - No changes
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(9) OpenPrinting News/GSoC - updates (Ira)
https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/openprinting/minutes/
https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News/
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/releases/tag/v2.4.11
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/libcups/releases/v3.0rc3
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups-filters/releases/tag/2.0.1
https://openprinting.github.io/cups-browsed-2.1.1/
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pappl/releases/tag/v1.4.8
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pdfio/releases/tag/v1.4.0
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/lprint/releases/tag/v1.3.1

- Discussion

  - GSoC 2025 - see timeline link above (posted by Google on 01/14/25)
    - 01/27/25 - Mentoring organizations can begin submitting applications to Google
    - 02/11/25 - Mentoring organization application deadline
    - 02/27/25 - List of accepted mentoring organizations published
    - 02/27/25 to 03/24/25 - Potential GSoC contributors discuss application ideas
    - 03/24/25 - GSoC contributor application period begins
    - 04/08/25 - GSoC contributor application deadline
    - 04/29/25 - GSoC contributor proposal rankings due from Org Admins
    - 05/08/25 - Accepted GSoC contributor projects announced
    - 05/08/25 to 06/01/25 - Community Bonding Period: GSoC contributors get to know mentors
    - 06/02/25 - Coding officially begins
    - 07/18/25 - Midterm evaluation deadline (standard coding period)
    - 08/25/25 to 09/01/25 - Final week: GSoC contributors submit their final work product
    - 09/08/25 - Mentors submit final GSoC contributor evaluations (standard coding period)
    - 09/01/25 to 11/09/25 - GSoC contributors continue coding (extended coding period)
    - 11/18/25 - GSoC contributors to submit their final work product 


  - See OP Monthly Steering Committee minutes link above (Ira)

  - New structure for news postings from OP (Till)
    - OpenPrinting News - A New Approach
      - Moving on from time-based monthly posts to one post per subject matter
      - https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News-A-New-Approach/

    - OpenPrinting News - The Winter of Code 4.0
      - OpenPrinting is mentoring organization in the WoC 4.0! 
      - Apply for doing a 1-month project until Dec 31!
      - https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News-The-Winter-of-Code-4.0/

  - See OP CUPS v2.4.11 release notes link from 09/24/24 (Zdenek Dohnal, RedHat)

  - See OP CUPS v3 release candidate 3 release notes link from 10/22/24 (Mike)  

  - See CUPS Filters v2.0.1 release notes link from 08/14/24 (Till)

  - See cups-browsed v2.1.1 release notes link from 01/10/25 (Till)

  - See PAPPL v1.4.8 release notes link from 11/14/24 (Mike)

  - See PDFio v1.4.0 release notes link from late December 2024 (Mike)
    - Simple C library for reading and writing any version of PDF files

  - See LPrint v1.3.1 release notes link from 02/09/24 (Mike)

  - OP Steering Committee
    - OP monthly calls resumed on 01/14/25

(10) Other Liaisons (all)
https://mopria.org/
https://3mf.io/

- Discussion
  - Mopria
    - No update

  - 3MF Consortium
    - No Update

(11) Next SC meetings

- SC - Monday 20 January 2025
  - CANCELED due to MLK Day and Inauguration Day

- SC - Monday 27 January 2025
  - Final plenary slide review and other twiddles to the F2F

- SC - Monday 3 February 2025
  - CANCELED due PWG February 2025 F2F

- SC - Monday 10 February 2025
  - Postmortem on PWG February 2025 F2F

Previous Action Items

ACTION: 12/16/24 - Paul to send an email to the convener of the Construction Working Group on the ASTM side to find a way to join so that he can contribute to JG80
- CLOSED
ACTION: 12/16/24 - Paul to finish email to a guy at Auburn U. that does the cybersecurity track at [ICAM?]
- OPEN
ACTION: 12/16/24 - Paul to get the draft document presented at VDMA meeting that is close to completion and approval so that he and we can make comments on it before it is approved (if that opening is still available)
- OPEN
ACTION: 01/06/25 - Bill to create a slide for the February 2025 Plenary deck summarizing the status of the HCD iTC
- IN PROGRESS - HCD iTC meeting later this afternoon
ACTION: 01/06/25 - Jeremy to make a Survey Monkey asking for possible May 2025 F2F in person attendees, and limitations / suggested locations, and possible adjacent events that might make it more attractive / possible to kill 2 birds with 1 stone - Add a question / way to indicate collisions - none from WFA / IETF / IEEE / BTSIG / NFC Forum
- IN PROGRESS